Posts by janusfulcrum

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Mass Resignations In Mormon Cult

by cofty in

thousands of mormons have simultaneously tendered their resignation from the cult following secret changes to the handbook that further discriminated against gay members and the children of gay couples.. "last week secret revisions to the handbook for the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints was leaked to the public, sparking a furious backlash and ultimately resulting in the mass resignations.

" source....

janusfulcrum

Interesting op ed piece by Bloomberg View columnist on this subject, Signs of hope for gay LDS faithful, who writes "..the prospects for future tolerance. ...are stronger in a faith that believes in continuing revelation than they are in one ....that cleaves to traditional teachings..." He goes on "the phenomenon of continuing revelation means that no element of LDS doctrine is totally unchangeable" citing their changes to plural marriage and the racial issue. He attributes the possibility of change more to LDS obedience to U.S.law and constitution than to compassion, etc. but still an interesting thought that the church may still change in the future their current stance, more so in obedience to law.

Partially mirrors JWism in the changing doctrine, but tolerance for gays? Not so much. Not holding my breath on that one.

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Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

janusfulcrum

My apologies cappytan. I wasn't aware of the demographics of the border congos. Much different in the midwest.

I'm still skeptical.

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Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

janusfulcrum

I'm confused. First you say these ones are all from English congregations, later that they cross the border freely. So are they Hispanic but in english? Highly unlikely on several points.

Older Hispanic don't go to English
Hispanics in general are highly loyal to the org and rule oriented rather than principle driven. They don't argue doctrine in my experience.

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RE: Appropriate attire for graduation ceremony

by Lied2NoMore in

will the branch send out a letter to address appropriate attire for the worldwide graduation from .

"the school that no one ever graduates from"?.

i have been thinking of the endless ways this new direction for the tms termination screams for criticism.. i am sure a quick publication search will reveal several references gushing at how great of an invention the tms was, how it has benefitted jw's, you know, gush, gush, greatest thing since sliced bread, blah, blah, blah.... i'm not interesting in looking at the moment, but wasn't knorr credited with its invention and rollout?.

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So why did they use the word student in the letter? Could these parts still be considered talks for which the students might receive some sort of council after the meeting? Thus still a school but without the title as such?

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Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

by Watchtower-Free in

october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

dear brothers:.

janusfulcrum

Doesn't using the term "students" indicate there might still be a school? What isn't addressed is whether there will be "council" after each talk. I guess there could still be a second school also, just not on first month's meeting. But only one bible reading by a brother, not student. Does that mean no more five year olds reading about fornication, death and dismemberment? That might actually be the best outcome of this mess of a change.

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"Millions Now Living Will Never Die"

by drewcoul in

i understand that the judge's book "millions now living will never die" has undergone a slight of hand change of title to "millions now living may never die.".

where could i find the new title in print in any wt publication?

i do not have a wt library anymore, and would like to show my mom how they have changed the name of the book in their references to it..

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Name "UNWRITTEN" Rules That JWs Are Supposed To Follow

by minimus in

jw
friends

as with the scribes and pharisees, there are a number of unwritten rules that witnesses are supposed to follow.

here's a couple : "worldly" kids in society depictions are shown quite often wearing their baseball caps backwards.

jehovah's witness youths would not want to imitate that "look".

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A new one I just heard of. You can't wear your sunglasses on your head while in service, as in placing them there while you are at a door. No scriptural reason given.

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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

by suavojr in

jw
friends

let the merging begin!!!.

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

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According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

by flipper in

considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

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This Year's Memorial

by TD in

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friends

perhaps i'm just getting older and crankier, but it really seems to me that the jw faith is deteriorating at an accelerated rate.. case in point: this year's memorial talk.

it was one of the most incoherent messes i've ever heard.

(and i've heard a lot of memorial talks over the last 50 years....).

janusfulcrum

A brother passing the "bread" dropped a piece. I whispered to my seat mate "don't look now, but there's Jesus' leg on the floor." A few minutes later he picked it up. We had 150, down 20 from last year.