englishman, we renamed while you were gone - welcome to Happy Valley ag.
There's no crime in Happy Valley because there's no police here to cause any
having had a week away from home, i'm astonished at the way some posters have started to behave.
this site seems suddenly to be full of vitriol.. now i don't pretend to be every one's favourite pussy cat, and i will always be as outspoken as i choose to be, but i do not attack people personally, i only attack what they believe if i am convinced that their beliefs are anti-social or detrimental.
i don't attack the person propagating that belief.
englishman, we renamed while you were gone - welcome to Happy Valley ag.
There's no crime in Happy Valley because there's no police here to cause any
to the apostate formerly known as i-ching:.
newbies, you will know him as bad ass.
miss your sarcam dude.
darkclouds did nic just hand you the can opener? (see his erotica post) ag.
ps. last we heard bad ass had been tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail - for no less than first degree juvenile mole-est-a -shun wihin the confines of the chat room -
lived up to a low reputation.
i want to share a perspective, with everyone that comes here to read, for i feel it will take some of us in a new direction.
perhaps it will allow for some creative thinking and interesting discussion or maybe it simply wont go anywhere.
it does not really matter either way, for there are subjects which can only be speculated on and thoughts which can only be shared.
ps. your bible thoughts - it seems to me like everything is cool with the bible if you just dont blow it out of proportion - it's the story of a history of a particular people/culture - israel - isreals relationship or form of worship of IT'S "god" and then with a few added other events tacked on - like for example - the appearance & disappearance and re-appearence of an odd messiah here or there - it teaches you some lessons about life and how to have a relationship with isreals particular "god"/s - if you want to - just like the holybooks of lot of other faiths do - except you worship their particular "god" according to their particular description of how thats done - and so on - around the world - more or less
what if you allow for the possibility that maybe these books weren't written by god in the sense of what most people would expect a book written by god would be - or should be
what if a book written by god could be fallible? what if it was no more inspired than that of an inspired poet? -
what if a book written by a god didn't have to be believable? ag.
i want to share a perspective, with everyone that comes here to read, for i feel it will take some of us in a new direction.
perhaps it will allow for some creative thinking and interesting discussion or maybe it simply wont go anywhere.
it does not really matter either way, for there are subjects which can only be speculated on and thoughts which can only be shared.
just got off the marijuana thread and now i think i'm seeing double - cool rave clouds - i dug it - i remember you talking about the political aspect before but i think i'm starting to see what you are getting at - which is something i hadn't thought about too much - it was interesting the way you put your idea across - well what i'm talking about is the same idea but on a much smaller level - much more of a microcosm - trying to sort the political shit out of a small group of people - maybe even as small as - two? - there's usually some kind of politics going down - personal agenda - in all it's variety of shades - getting past that - and not caring about that difference - the difference between yourself and another individual - i suppose that's where i am - my thoughts kind of are - amongst other seriously out there places - far too profane to mention on a christian bulletin board - - (this is my alfred hitchcock style of writing in case you hadn't noticed) ag.
to wendy & prisca,.
you badly misjudged both my intentions and what i wrote.
isnt that exactly what ive been saying all along and the reason that i posted in the first place?
lonewolf - a brief interuption to your conversation with those whome you're adressing down this thread - but i really enjoyed reading that post - thanks. ag
sad person that i am, i posted this yesterday, but the post seems to have self destructed....... anyway, if anyone posted to the other thread wants to re-post to this one it would be much appreciated.
alright, this is one of those what was your favourite questions:.
when you were a witness (or even if youre still reluctantly attached like me), did you have a favourite kingdom melody (why couldnt they just be called hymns by the way)?.
riz,
witness girls seem to find out early
how to open doors with just a smile……
AG
i want to share a perspective, with everyone that comes here to read, for i feel it will take some of us in a new direction.
perhaps it will allow for some creative thinking and interesting discussion or maybe it simply wont go anywhere.
it does not really matter either way, for there are subjects which can only be speculated on and thoughts which can only be shared.
thinker, maybe that's the point?
why does the bible have to be provable?
it's almost seems as if by speaking of the bible and science in the one breath, the superiority of the bible and hence those who believe in it is indisputable.
I'm referring to those who cling to the belief that science must prove the bible like fundamentalists do.
but what if you forget for a moment that the bible has to be provable, scientifically accurate etc, etc, but see it as another book of part fact, part fiction, part human, part divine, , part legend, part myth part history, part folklore, part fairytale even and so on, no lesser or greater than any other comparable works on the planet,
that like the holybooks and myths and legends of all the other faiths & beliefs, merged out of a certain culture at a certain time.
what if you look at it as simply another holybook , that speaks about what all the other holybooks speak about - life?
(I'm being very general, I hope I'm not making to greater leaps of thought but I'm too lazy to fill in the gaps with explanantion )
for some reason the emphasis on the bible in our culture gets thrown way out of perspective
the christian way is the superior way because the bible is provable by science, or is scienfically accurate.
I respect the bible as I do a lot of other holy books but at the same time I'm not sure if the authors of any of them were expecting people to read their work and then go ahead and make life fit into a book.
a book can never be anything more than a guide or a blueprint, the practical individual experience of life will not conform to a book about the subject.
life doesn’t conform to a set of rules, it's totally spontaneous,
so if you look at the bible as just another holy book written in much the same style of language necessary for a holy book to be written in ie. "descriptive of a supernatural phenomona "
and forget about it having to be proved by science but see it as simply another book of stories on the subject of more or less getting through this life
then the bible is no longer a problem, it's simply a book of stories, and I'm not saying this in such a way as to denigrate those stories, murky as some of them may be.
why does the bible have to be provable that's what I would like to know?. to tell you the truth I prefer the idea of looking at it as not having to be provable but full of mythical mystique.
according to logic or rationale or science most of the bible stories might not hold water, but whose to say the stories holding water was the point of the author/s?
whether those stories be from the bible or any other holybook for that matter?
this only becomes an issue if you've got something to prove like the superiority of the bible in my opinion and if you feel the compulsion to prove the superiority of the bible you start to enter that
shadowy realm where persoanl agenda and scriptural dogma become extremely difficult to differentiate.
and all sorts of truly evil things start to happen.
AG
i lost my heart when i used my mind.
it is a road many have traveled, an uncertain path wrought with fear and adversity, yet a journey that for many must be completed or they will never feel at peace.
when a person has heart, they may be described as motivated, a leader, a person who draws others to their cause.
that was cool messenger. thanks. i used to have lots of dreams about wars and battlefields around the time i was exit ramping "spiritual paradise". ag
sad person that i am, i posted this yesterday, but the post seems to have self destructed....... anyway, if anyone posted to the other thread wants to re-post to this one it would be much appreciated.
alright, this is one of those what was your favourite questions:.
when you were a witness (or even if youre still reluctantly attached like me), did you have a favourite kingdom melody (why couldnt they just be called hymns by the way)?.
this is the chorus from my favourite kingdom song:
you can't hide
from elders eyes
and their smile
is a thin disguise
i thought by now
you'd realize
there aint no way
to hide from elders eyes
AG. apologies to henley/frey or whoever wrote the thing.
that got you to read this!
what country are you from?.
i find it encouraging to see where different posters are from in the world, especially for me, if you are from the uk or europe.
hi i'm acapulcogold and i live around the world online.AG