it cracks me up if you bring this subject up to a witness , they always try to convince themselves that i'm reading into this!!!.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqwknq31ie&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
The building we used about 25 years ago in my last congregation was no longer safe to be used as a KH... so they said. So plans were made to build a new hall... and then they sold the old hall... to a Baptist Church!!!
Up until today it's still used as a church, so the whole 'it's not safe anymore' was a scheme to get us to approve and pay for a new hall.
rode over to the farmer's market with a couple of neighbors, nice women, seem sensible.
the driver stopped in the middle of a block and stared at the coca-cola truck that was parked there.
she said, "do you see the round tower?
Just live and let live... luckily we're not all the same and we can decide for ourselves what we want to believe and what not.
I soooo love my freedom of thought!
last week friday i was delayed in going to work, for which i am glad.
it was an opportunity for me to help my gran one last time.
she thanked me, told me she loved me and that i would be very blessed.
So sorry for your loss Loubelle, but what a wonderful goodbye you gave to her. To me this sounds like the best way to leave life, surrounded by your loved ones... Enjoy that champagne and celebrate the life you had with your gran!
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first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
Thank you Iown Mylife... it's nice to feel so welcome ♥
# 3 newbie post.
first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
Aaaah, thank you so much Clarity, this really made my day... together with that beautiful orange/salmon/purple sunset half an hour ago, which completed my gratitude mood ! And such on Thanksgiving day... haha.
finally got it up on youtube...the title right at the moment is just "grandma" but it's going to change to "grandma pleads with jehovah's witness granddaughter.".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpuj96a8lg.
we taped it about a week ago and my mom went into the hospital 3 days ago.
It's so cruel what the WTS demands of their followers... I wish grandma Mary Lou all the best and give her loads of virtual hugs ♥
In my case it's exactly the opposite... my 89 year old grandmother doesn't want to see me anymore. She can't because of her 'conscience'... We've always been very close, but I'm DF'd, so no way I will ever see her again, unless I go back. And that's not an option (even though I've considered it on her behalf, but I know for sure if it was the other way around she would never do the same for me... so I've let go of that idea).
I really hope grandma Mary Lou will get to see her granddaughter before it's too late.
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first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
This is a heartwarming thread, Clarity! I'm a newbie too, registered 7 days ago. Been reading a lot the last couple of months and come here everyday. I've known TTATT for years now, thanks to a Dutch ex-JWboard, and a couple of years ago I thought I was done with the whole 'JW-thing'...
They kicked me out eleven years ago and I moved on with my life, struggling every now and then, had therapy with a lovely psychologist who helped me a lot to get my self esteem back on track, and I thought I was 'ready'... new life, forget about the JW's.
But it doesn't work that way. You can get the girl out of the cult, but the cult will always be part of the girl... at least, that's my experience. Since my whole family is still in there is this constant reminder of what's missing... caring parents, loving brothers and sisters, nieces, nephews, grandparents, aunts and uncles... they're all JW's, and some have faded but still judge me for living my life the way I want to live it. And that's a pain that doesn't go away. I can live with it, it's not a daily issue in my head, but it's a gap, a black hole in my life that can never be filled with other people... God knows I've tried that!
And so I've started reading on the Dutch board again and found links to JWstruggle and this forum... and it's really soothing to read other people's stories. I can relate to so many things I read, that I just keep on reading... it really helps. I've got a wonderful husband (never been a JW), and he listens to everything I want to tell about my past, but he could never grasp the tiniest bit of what I've been through growing up as a JW. And that's what's so wonderful of this forum, it's packed with people who DO understand, who had the same experiences as I did... and I'm very grateful for that!
Oh and the translation of my name is easy, since I live in Spain in the area they call the 'Costa del Sol' ('Coast of the Sun' or 'Sunny coast') and I'm a witch (yep, that's what I wrote, I'm a white witch) and the Spanish word for 'witch' is 'bruja'... there you go, I'm the Witch of the Sun, or Sunny Witch
hi!.
hey, did anyone here ever get disfellowshipped after years of fading, because of having been discovered online saying crap about the wts and/or the gb?.
just wondering... you know they are following these sites....
My ex-husband's uncle was DF'd years after fading. They had moved house, nobody in their new surroundings thought of them as JW's... but when the uncle started smoking and was seen by a JW they called him in for a JC. Of course he never showed up, and shortly after that got DF'd. It didn't influence his family, his wife and children had stopped for years together with him, but for his parents (my ex's grandparents) it was a disaster. All their children were JW's and they were all pretty close, and because of the DF'ing of their son everything fell apart. Aunts and uncles judging each other, judging their parents, the whole clan fell apart through this! And up until this day it never got fixed again... :(
it seems to me that this 20th / 21st century has made heaven obsolete .prior to this timeframe the average person would have thought ,somewhere just above the clouds is where heaven would be.then gradually as knowledge and science increased ," heaven" has been further removed from the vicinity of earth.then we had yuri gagarin the russian cosmonaut circling the earth in his space capsule , and he wasnt in heaven .now many people from different countries circle the world in space in the international space ship.they obviously are not in heaven either.. not to be overlooked of course is the moon landings , which was a major acheivement for science and engineering when it was first accomplished.. however their has not been one ,not two or even three moon landings , their has been six with a total of twelve humans who have set foot on the moon.
and they never encounted "heaven " for people who dispute the moon landings , do you honestly think other nations ,some hostile to the americans ,would sit back and not challenge these acheivements ?.
after all these years ?.
All the things you mention are physical. The moon for instance can be physically reached in our 3D reality. What people call 'heaven' however is another dimension, we cannot see this from the dimension we're in while we're alive as humans.
My two cents...
I don't have any problem with pagan practices or concepts. I became a witch after I left the JW's and all the hysteria from JW's about witchcraft and paganism is just insane. I don't celebrate Halloween, but I celebrate Samhain, from which Halloween originated.
