Posts by abiather

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You find it easier to hang on to technicality. That is not the subject here! At what stage the embryo is a person also does not matter. Sperm from man and egg from woman go to form the embryo, after that they do not know what is happening; yet they call it abortion—as if they are the actual doers so as to abort the process in-between. How a seed is formed in man and woman—this too they do not know. Semen and eggs are meant for creation. If an embryo is formed, no one has the right to terminate it. Those who say this are simply RESPONSIBLE-MINDED, not ignorant as you conveniently term them.

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The life differences between a good christian and good athiest

by EndofMysteries in

let's compare a christian who goes to a non judgemental / non guilt trip church which focuses really on the gospels, jesus teachings on being non judgemental, anything out of love there is no law against, and they contribute to society.

then an athiest who if you put side by side w/ the above christian, you would not know any difference unless you asked their beliefs.

both are good people, who are able to lead lives doing what they want, enjoying their life, and trying to help their neighbors too.

abiather

Laika:

I believe only experiences. I have found people living a simple life, who are moderate in their sleep, eating, working, entertainment, and thinking, living happily, with minimum diseases.

I enjoy the journey, not the destination (means whatever you do, do with 100 % involvement—the rest leave it to God, and enjoy surprises He gives)

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abortion vs holocaust

by unstopableravens in

abiather

The only difference is in the number.

Parents murder 50 million UNWANTED babies a year, and choose to call it by a softer name—abortion;

whereas the holocaust killed comparatively very few people a year

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The life differences between a good christian and good athiest

by EndofMysteries in

let's compare a christian who goes to a non judgemental / non guilt trip church which focuses really on the gospels, jesus teachings on being non judgemental, anything out of love there is no law against, and they contribute to society.

then an athiest who if you put side by side w/ the above christian, you would not know any difference unless you asked their beliefs.

both are good people, who are able to lead lives doing what they want, enjoying their life, and trying to help their neighbors too.

abiather

Actually, atheists are like those who study a wonderfully working robot, and conclude that it is purely material (and they are right because they never saw a brilliant scientist who designed it.)

Christians, in general, have no motivation to be good because they believe that humans commit sin because of “one man” who was inspired by a woman, who in turn was inspired by a snake. Yet no problem, somebody else has died for your sake, and on the basis of his death, you have the forgiveness.

Hence both Atheists and Christians are no different—both ignore the SCIENTIFIC Principle of Cause and Effect. And both of them spread, because disease spreads (health does not spread)

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Why do humans suffer

by StephaneLaliberte in

while talking with my wife, it occurred to me that the jws idea of why humans suffer doesnt make sense.

the idea is that humans suffer so as to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that they cannot rule themselves.. now, the bible states that satan is the ruler of this world.

so just how letting time pass by supposed to answer the question about the humans ability to govern themselves when they dont govern themselves?

abiather

According to Jesus, humans suffer because of the scientific principle of ENTROPY. Everything was good in the beginning, then it began to decline in quality. See what he says categorically:

“The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into about sixty pounds of flour until it worked all through the dough.” (Mathew 13:33) And it was “new” for some time, then it became “old.” (Mathew 13:52)

Again its pure science, nature’ law, that there will again be new creation, growth, decay and regeneration.

“What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”? It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time (Ecclesiastes 1:9, 10)

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Use cell phones sparingly!

by abiather in

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a friendly message with regard to the use of cell phones.. we have all the reasons to minimise its use, and try to put it on speakerphone whenever possible keeping it away from your head and body.. .

iphones particularly should not be carried on the body.. .

watch this news report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ld8pcsjnca.

abiather

A friendly message with regard to the use of cell phones.

We have all the reasons to minimise its use, and try to put it on speakerphone whenever possible keeping it away from your head and body.

iPhones particularly should not be carried on the body.

Watch this news report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ld8pCSjNcA

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Admitting Bible is not wholly inspired need not worry JWs

by abiather in

jws are too sensitive about the bible.

they consider every verse of the bible as inspired of god.

hence doubting even one verse of the bible is a disfellowshipping offence among them!.

abiather

JWs are too sensitive about the Bible. They consider every verse of the Bible as “inspired of God.” Hence doubting even one verse of the Bible is a disfellowshipping offence among them!

They do not realize that doubting one or two verses in the Bible will not do any harm to the Bible, nor to any scripture for that matter. What is true of all scriptures, epics, myths or even stories is that characters need not be historical, but the characteristics they display are historical. Sustained effort and overconfidence tortoise and hare displayed respectively are historical (because people have been displaying them throughout the history), but the competition of tortoise and hare are not historical (never happened). A powerful ruler’s inordinate lust towards someone else’s wife and the subsequent down-fall is more historical (which is the theme of the epic called Ramayan) than the characters! Ingratitude displayed individually and collectively in the Bible is more historical (because people still display it) than its characters.

Scriptures and stories provide examples of people who acted either wisely or foolishly, hence reaped accordingly. By reading them people can choose whatever they like, and reap accordingly! Hence anyone can become healthy, happy, successful and spiritual if they look for such examples and act accordingly. Or anyone can waste his life by looking at the defects of others, over which he has no control and ignoring his own defects over which he does have control!

Bible has many problems. For example, the Old Testament Jesus was acquainted with was different from what we have today. In the OT of his period, the statement: “male and female he created them” (which is found at Genesis 1:27) was IMMEDIATELY followed by this statement: “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh (which is found at Genesis 2:24). (Mathew 19:4-6) This means Jesus was familiar with the fact that mankind was created male and female simultaneously (That man was created first from the dust, and then woman was created from man’s rib, as found in present Bible, from Genesis 1:28 to Genesis 2:23, is a later interpolation).

Here what is important is not what Jesus thought of the historicity of Adam and Eve, but the fatherhood of God that makes man and woman equal, hence man should not divorce woman for every reason—which is the context of Mathew chapter 19.

If you examine incidents described in the Bible, you will see many mistakes and inconsistencies. That need not worry anyone. Because characteristics of the character and their consequences are real lessons, not the historicity of the characters! What is inspired is not descriptions of each happening, but the impeccable principle behind every happening. (Galatians 6:7)

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Is there a situation where all went RIGHT except JWs?

by abiather in

yes, i have noted many; i will share just two of them.. 1) jws prohibit birth-day celebration saying john the baptists was murdered during the celebration of herods birth day.

will anyone abstain from marriage celebration just because somewhere 2000 years ago in some marriage celebration in the orient, somebody was killed?

or will any country abolish voting system itself because somebody was killed in a voting station?

abiather

Yes, I have noted many; I will share just two of them.

1) JWs prohibit birth-day celebration saying John the Baptists was murdered during the celebration of Herod’s birth day. Will anyone abstain from marriage celebration just because somewhere 2000 years ago in some marriage celebration in the orient, somebody was killed? Or will any country abolish voting system itself because somebody was killed in a voting station? Interestingly, History books show that John the Baptists was killed by Herod on political reason, not in connection with any birthday celebration! If viewed from the correct perspective, birthday is the most important celebration; because birth of a person is the most wonderful event—an act of God being performed in front of us—it is an act of God, because we did not create ourselves. Our parents too would say they did not create us. Truth is that we come from God, through our parents. Hence our birth is an act of God, and its climax event is the birthday. Thus birthday celebration actually glorifies God—it only shows we are happy with our lives!

2) Another situation is their translation of Mathew 5:3 as “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them,” while other Bibles have it: “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”

If Jesus were here on earth, he would favor the translation: “Blessed are those poor in spirit.” Because he himself defined, with his life, spirituality as being “poor in spirit”. Jesus himself was “poor in spirit,” because despite of being a great person with extra-ordinary skill, he did not have a sense of ownership (Mathew 8:20; 16:24) nor a sense of doer-ship (John 8:16; 5:19) nor attachment even to his own family members. (Mark 3:33, 34) In other words, he had no self-made envelop called ego over his spirit (John 10:30). He had full control over vices, even over desire for pleasure from sleep. The first thing he used to do “very early in the morning, while it was still dark” was that he would ‘get up, leave the house and go off to a solitary place,’ where he would spend time talking to His Heavenly Father. (Mark 1:35) He was like enjoying a romance with God. (Compare Isaiah 54:5)

Anyone who manifests the above attitudes is “poor in spirit.” Manifesting the above attitudes is not at all difficult, because we have observed many people who manifest them! If it is possible for some, it is possible for others too, if they are willing to do. If a Doctor misdiagnoses somebody, and tells him that he will die within a few days, you will see him changing from being materialistic to spiritual, WITHOUT ANY EXTERNAL HELP! All humans know that they all will die at any moment, hence should be possible for them to turn spiritual, as in the above-mentioned case! The key to living a fulfilled life and enjoying each moment is to truly REALIZE the transient nature of the world around us. REALIZE means having REAL EYES that see the real, not the things that come and go after some time. If one is willing, he can see the SOURCE behind all the resources!

A vehicle that goes forward can go reverse too if we change into appropriate gear. Similarly, no one taught us to look for defects in others and to boast of the good in ourselves—yet we all do! This can also be reversed—we can look for the good in others and defects in ourselves (with the intention of undoing them) without anybody teaching us—that is the sign of spirituality! Remember, no one helped the prodigal son to return to spirituality. He understood materialism has a dead-end from his own experience, something which he could have discern from others’ experiences in front of his eyes! Hence, what is needed is an observant eye, not external organization!

How unfortunate JWs translated Mathew 5:3 as “happy are those conscious of their spiritual need.” Thieves are conscious of the requirement of being a good citizen, yet that will not make them good citizen! Hence, JWs got exactly the opposite of what Jesus intended. Bible writers actually contrast spirituality with egoism which is all about needs. (Galatians 5:26) But spirituality is all about spirit, and SPIRIT HAS NO NEEDS, it only gives. (Luke 6:32-38; Galatians 5:22-25). When you enjoy giving, you will give it to the full (or FILL to the FULL), you will feel you have a life FULFILLED.

In addition, JW translation indirectly hints that there will be a visible organization (of God on earth) to cater to the needs of people, especially in the “Last Days”—something that is not even remotely implied in the Gospel of Mark, which is the source for Mathew and Luke. Jesus concluded the signs of Last Days saying: “What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’” (Mark 13:37)

The above two examples are typical of JWs who complicate what is very simple!

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My witnessing to an atheist was my last witnessing!

by abiather in

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friends

in the field service, during my preaching to a householder, she interrupted me and said: i would ask something, after getting answer you can continue!

i said ok. she said: i was not believing in the existence of a god until recently.

last month, in the middle of the night, i got an emergency call from my hospital to attend to a complicated caesarean case.

abiather

What she conlcuded is her choice. Whether it is right or not is another question. What she said drove home a point I would never have thought of by myself as a JW. Hence it was more of God acting in favor of me than of Him acting in favor of her.

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My witnessing to an atheist was my last witnessing!

by abiather in

jw
friends

in the field service, during my preaching to a householder, she interrupted me and said: i would ask something, after getting answer you can continue!

i said ok. she said: i was not believing in the existence of a god until recently.

last month, in the middle of the night, i got an emergency call from my hospital to attend to a complicated caesarean case.

abiather

In the field service, during my preaching to a householder, she interrupted me and said: “I would ask something, after getting answer you can continue!” I said ok. She said: “I was not believing in the existence of a God until recently. Last month, in the middle of the night, I got an emergency call from my hospital to attend to a complicated caesarean case. I rushed immediately and did a successful work, and was returning. It was around 3 ‘O’ clock in the morning. My car had a break-down on my way back. To my shock, I realized that I had not taken my mobile phone. I was literally in panic, yet there was nothing to do except remaining in the car locked from inside.

After some time, two youngsters came on a bike. The asked me whether I needed any help. I said no. But to my yet another shock, they did not go. They parked their bike on the side and remained there talking to each other, calling somebody over their phone. After some time one more bike came and joined them. I was thinking I am going to be raped and killed. I had no God to pray to as I was an atheist—which was the inheritance from my schooling.

Each second passed like years. To my surprise, no untoward incident took place. When the sun rose, the gang approached me and asked again what help they should do for me. I said: “I am physician. Let me make a call to my hospital so that they may send some vehicle to take me to my home.” They immediately gave their mobile phone.

I asked them why they remained around my car, as though guarding me and my vehicle. They said they are actually criminals. But they knew that the place is very dangerous for a woman to be alone in a car. Hence they thought of guarding me. When they saw the hospital vehicle arriving, they left.

When I went to save the lives of two people in the middle of the night forgetting my sleep, I had a problem on my way back. And who arranged help for me? This incident was enough for me to believe in a power behind this universe, who acts with discretion. If I know that there is a God who exists and helps even the atheist, why should you preach to people about God, you are wasting your time.

I became dumb for a moment. I thanked her and left. Yet I was not a loser, because that was my last witnessing, going out in the field-ministry.