Posts by abiather

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Proof for the IMMORTAL soul triggered my doubt on JW teachings!

by abiather in

once i was talking to myself: religions are all about sacrifices (and rituals), viewing god as a means to get forgiveness of sins and material benefits, and bible is no exception.

yet the foundation of the universe is on the never-failing principle of cause and consequences, something which god will never violate.

forgiveness of sins is a violation of principle of cause and consequencessomething that bible itself ironically upholds in galatians 6:7 and in many other verses!

abiather

Cofty,

Neuroscience says thinking is the emergent feature of brain. If that is the case, why does the brain in the corpse not think? Brain is still very much there in the corpse!

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Proof for the IMMORTAL soul triggered my doubt on JW teachings!

by abiather in

once i was talking to myself: religions are all about sacrifices (and rituals), viewing god as a means to get forgiveness of sins and material benefits, and bible is no exception.

yet the foundation of the universe is on the never-failing principle of cause and consequences, something which god will never violate.

forgiveness of sins is a violation of principle of cause and consequencessomething that bible itself ironically upholds in galatians 6:7 and in many other verses!

Once I was talking to myself: “Religions are all about sacrifices (and rituals), viewing God as a means to get forgiveness of sins and material benefits, and Bible is no exception. Yet the foundation of the universe is on the never-failing Principle of Cause and Consequences, something which God will never violate. Forgiveness of sins is a violation of Principle of Cause and Consequences—something that Bible itself ironically upholds in Galatians 6:7 and in many other verses! Hence all religions—including the Bible—make no sense!”

I got up from the sleep—ACTUALLY I WAS DREAMING, and the above talk was my mind’s talk to me in my dream!!!

“I cannot see my soul” is not a valid excuse. Because I have not seen my own face other than its reflection on the mirror or its picture on some paper/canvas. Though I use my eyes to see others, I cannot see my own eyes. Just like our eyes made of physical elements cannot see our eyes, physical eyes cannot see the immaterial entity that uses those physical eyes! Hence the immaterial soul should be seen reflected in the mirror of intelligence or reason!

That was the beginning of my disassociation with JWs whose one of the teachings is that we do not have an immortal soul!

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Scientists almost created life in a lab?!

by abiather in

the scientists at the scripps research institute, california, have almost succeeded in creating the world's first living organism with artificial dna!.

http://discovermagazine.com/2015/jan-feb/43-first-organism-with-artificial-dna.

http://www.scripps.edu/news/press/2014/20140507romesberg.html.

abiather

Viviane,

I did not mention the source as it was not the subject. Here are some the published materials:

1) NASA’s rating of Sanskrit as the perfect language was published in the 1985 spring issue of AI (Artificial Intelligence) Magazine.NASA researcher Rick Briggs who wrote in it: “In the past 20 years, much time, effort, and money have been expended on designing an unambiguous representation of natural languages to make them accessible to computer processing. These efforts have centered around creating schemata designed to parallel logical relations expressed by the syntax and semantics of natural languages, which are clearly cumbersome and ambiguous in their function as vehicles for the transmission of logical data. Understandably, there is a widespread belief that natural languages are unsuitable for the transmission of many ideas that artificial languages can render with great precision and mathematical rigor. But this dichotomy, which has served as a premise underlying much work in the areas of linguistics and artificial intelligence, is a false one. There is at least one language, Sanskrit, which for the duration of almost 1000 years was a loving spoken language with a considerable literature of its own. Besides works of literary value, there was a long philosophical and grammatical tradition that has continued to exist with undiminished vigor until the present century. Among the accomplishments of the grammarians can be reckoned a method for paraphrasing Sanskrit in a manner that is identical not only in essence but in form with current work in Artificial Intelligence.”

2) Interestingly, the very word Sanskrit itself means perfected speech (http://www.economist.com/blogs/johnson/2013/05/indian-historical-linguistics).

3) “The Sanskrit of the Vedas and the epics has already earmarks of a classical and literary tongue, used only by scholars and priests; the very word Sanskrit means ‘prepared, pure, perfect, sacred.’ (Will Durant says in Our Oriental Heritage p. 406)

4) “No other country can produce any grammatical system at all comparable to it, either for originality or plan or analytical subtlety. . . a perfect miracle of condensation.” Professor Sir Monier Williams, Indian Wisdom, p. 172.

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Scientists almost created life in a lab?!

by abiather in

the scientists at the scripps research institute, california, have almost succeeded in creating the world's first living organism with artificial dna!.

http://discovermagazine.com/2015/jan-feb/43-first-organism-with-artificial-dna.

http://www.scripps.edu/news/press/2014/20140507romesberg.html.

abiather

KateWild You got it rightly—that is the right view, comprehensive view. It’s like seeing a superb dance performance, and also perceiving the painstaking practice-sessions the dancer did before!

Viviane

You say creationists got it “BACKWARD.” Yet you know our whole history is about going “BACKWARD.”

1) We replaced perfect language (eg. Sanskrit, according to NASA, something they found out in their process of developing artificial intelligence) with imperfect languages.

2) We do not like to eat dead-bodies, hence we changed the name into non-vegetarian, and enjoy eating it.

3) We do not like to kill innocent babies, hence we changed the name into abortion and enjoy killing 50 million babies every year (more than any World War killed in one year) while they are still in their mothers’ womb.

4) We replace forest (deforestation as much as the land-size of England every year) with concrete jungle, thus spoiling air and water, and we call it progress!

5) ……………………………………. list goes on and on

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Scientists almost created life in a lab?!

by abiather in

the scientists at the scripps research institute, california, have almost succeeded in creating the world's first living organism with artificial dna!.

http://discovermagazine.com/2015/jan-feb/43-first-organism-with-artificial-dna.

http://www.scripps.edu/news/press/2014/20140507romesberg.html.

abiather

The scientists at the Scripps Research Institute, California, have almost succeeded in CREATING the world's first living organism with artificial DNA!

http://discovermagazine.com/2015/jan-feb/43-first-organism-with-artificial-dna

http://www.scripps.edu/news/press/2014/20140507romesberg.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/07/living-organism-artificial-dna_n_5283095.html?ir=India

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v509/n7500/full/nature13314.html

For billions of years since its emergence on the planet, the entire history of life has been written with just four letters: sub-units of DNA labelled A, T, C and G. Now for the first time, scientists have added two foreign building blocks, bits of synthetic DNA manipulated in the lab, to a cell. By adding extra letters, scientists have coaxed living cells to store extra genetic information. This by itself does not `solve' or unlock the ultimate riddle of life. But it opens mind-boggling opportunities: they may present to us completely man-made cells in the near future, thus would prove beyond any doubt that AN ORGANIZER was needed for the emergence of life in the first place, just like these scientists are ORGANIZERS of the doctored life!

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Will the evolutionists save us from the coming catastrophe?

by abiather in

the earth's magnetic field is in a weakening stage right now.

data collected this summer by a european space agency (esa) satellite suggests the field is weakening 10 times faster than scientists originally thought.

if the magnetic field weakens enough, then the earth could be hit with dangerous amounts of solar radiation and cosmic rays .....

abiather

The word “evolutionists” used here is in its ultimate sense, as those who believe everything evolved from space (not as originating from God). Hence, when agencies like NASA and ESA raise alarm about impending catastrophe, it is natural to ask: “Who will save us—evolutionists? Because evolutionists have explained: ‘How a mixture of lifeless chemicals spontaneously organized themselves into the first living cell, wrote DNA code …. finally created mind, intelligence, altruism and morality …..’ Hence naturally, they can explain how catastrophe can be avoided.

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Will the evolutionists save us from the coming catastrophe?

by abiather in

the earth's magnetic field is in a weakening stage right now.

data collected this summer by a european space agency (esa) satellite suggests the field is weakening 10 times faster than scientists originally thought.

if the magnetic field weakens enough, then the earth could be hit with dangerous amounts of solar radiation and cosmic rays .....

abiather

Greener

Thank you for capturing the real spirit of my posting--CONCERN for the future of humanity!

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Will the evolutionists save us from the coming catastrophe?

by abiather in

the earth's magnetic field is in a weakening stage right now.

data collected this summer by a european space agency (esa) satellite suggests the field is weakening 10 times faster than scientists originally thought.

if the magnetic field weakens enough, then the earth could be hit with dangerous amounts of solar radiation and cosmic rays .....

abiather

Addendum:

Solution could be:

When materialism is taught in the schools, many would copy the spirit of Evolution Theory (survival of the fittest/mightiest, richest or whatever). ‘My desire should be fulfilled at any cost, no matter what happens to others’ would be the typical attitude most people would follow. ‘Thus we have the Governments we deserve.’ Result is the present system of things where the real rulers are LUST (overpopulating the world beyond its resources), ANGER (saturating the earth with weapons of mass destruction) and GREED (widening the gap between the rich and the poor—“the richest 1 per cent of humans own half the world’s assets,” according to Credit Suisse Report of October 2014) Even in religion, they are the rulers! Though outwardly spiritual, religions are actually materialistic encouraging adherents to seek MATERIAL blessings from God, thus making God a MEANS in materialistic system of things. Even JWs are no exception as they teach: “You get paradise if you take up our version of worship.”

Interestingly, great analytical minds such as Alexander Pope, Adam Smith, Neil Armstrong, Thomas Alva Edison, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Victor Hugo,Voltaire, Wernher von Braun, George Washington, Albert Einstein, Mahatma Gandhi ………. believed that religions of this world are like water-tight compartments—they do not unite people, hence cannot be from God. Gandhi did not share the religious views of the world, because he declared: “A trader who earns his wealth by deception only succeeds in deceiving himself when he thinks that his sins can be washed away by spending some amount of his ill-gotten gains on the so-called religious purposes. For me, God and Truth are convertible terms, and if anyone told me that God was a god of untruth or a god of torture, I would decline to worship Him.” Gandhi thus declared invalid all religions which promise salvation to their believers in exchange of something material, which would, of course, be flagrant violation of omnipresent Law of Cause and Consequence—something God will never do!

All those great people with keen insight believed that God has given us REASON, not religion. Religions, in general, use fear and reward to keep the followers with them. Albert Einstein simply dismissed the very basis of all those religions when he said: "If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." He did not believe that God of the universe has used any religion or scriptures: “I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations." (from Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer)

These great men were right. If religions were from God, they would have remained in harmony with each other and would have had scriptures that would not conflict with others! Hence those great men believed that THE NATURE is God’s unchangeable book which contains all the lessons mankind needs, if they are willing to learn. To mention a few:

1) SUN (whose nature is to give light and heat) teaches us to light up faces of ours and of others, and to do things that warm up others through our words and action.

2) TREES (which prepare food for others to enjoy life) teach us to do good for the sake of good.

3) RIVER (which is always on the move) teaches us not to be attracted or disturbed by the things of this world.

4) LAW OF CAUSE AND CONSEQUENCE teaches us to learn from past things and act carefully in the future.

The list goes on and on, making God’s role throughout the history unnecessary! When individual changes, the world changes. Individual can make his life a celebration if he chooses to live by the lessons found in the book of Nature!

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Will the evolutionists save us from the coming catastrophe?

by abiather in

the earth's magnetic field is in a weakening stage right now.

data collected this summer by a european space agency (esa) satellite suggests the field is weakening 10 times faster than scientists originally thought.

if the magnetic field weakens enough, then the earth could be hit with dangerous amounts of solar radiation and cosmic rays .....

abiather

“The Earth's magnetic field is in a weakening stage right now. Data collected this summer by a European Space Agency (ESA) satellite suggests the field is weakening 10 times faster than scientists originally thought. If the magnetic field weakens enough, then the Earth could be hit with dangerous amounts of solar radiation and cosmic rays ….”

(http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/10/21/earth-magnetic-field-could-flip-in-our-lifetime/

http://www.earthfiles.com/news-print.php?ID=2260&category=Science)

Now this news gives us some food for thought:

If the earth's magnetism is due to a permanent magnet it would have been destroyed by now since a permanent magnet gets destroyed by high temperature (and we know that the earth's core is too hot as compared to the earth's surface). Further, since the earth's magnetic field is of the value of 8x10 (to the power 22) ampere meter squared, which is a very large number, the earth magnetic field must be utilizing a very large supply of energy to keep this going. From where did this energy come in the first place? No scientist has reached any conclusion on this and it is a mystery for them. (There are different theories without conclusion.)

The earth's magnetic field is due to an electric current circulating in the core of the earth. After this current started flowing, this current starts decaying as per Lenz's Law and it takes thousands of years to decay taking the earth's parameters into account. It is also found that the time taken for decay is proportional to the square of the radius. Hence when calculated, the dying out takes a few thousand years only and not millions of years. Now it has also been discovered that there is about 810 megawatts of power being used by the earth's magnetic field which is equivalent to the production of a huge power plant on the earth.

The evolutionists have been unable to answer the question of FROM WHERE THIS POWER HAS BEEN FLOWING FOR BILLIONS OF YEARS if their evolution theory is to be accepted. There is obviously a huge missing link somewhere. The currents are still flowing but it is estimated that it is decaying at an annual rate of approximately about 5 percent.

This leads us to believe that the earth’s magnetic field is only a few thousand years old and it will again revert back to its original state after a huge nuclear catastrophe even as the earth's axis will also change because of the huge nuclear explosions . The huge magnetic energy to the original state will be derived from the nuclear explosions.

That means history has been repeating:

appearance of civilization climaxed by a huge nuclear catastrophe,

again appearance of civilization climaxed by a huge nuclear catastrophe,

again appearance of civilization climaxed by a huge nuclear catastrophe …… ……………………………….

“What has been will be again,

what has been done will be done again;

there is NOTHING NEW under the sun.” (Ecclesiastes 1:9; 2:22)

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

abiather

Listener (also AndDontCallMeShirley & sowhatnow)

You are asking in what way climate change vindicates JWs. I did not explain this as all ex-JWs know the answer. Yet I will do it for you:

The substratum of all JW teachings is that humans would bring only ruin if they try to rule themselves without taking God’s will into account. And when the ruination reaches its climax, God would replace the present kingdoms (the real ruler of which is the greed of those who use technology) with His Kingdom; hence JWs has the caption: “THE WATCHTOWER announcing God’s Kingdom.” All other teachings have only secondary and supportive role, hence change in them would not matter.

Now picturize what science and technology have done as though in a story. What is the climax of this story? Science and its application (technology) spoiled the promptness of earth—it’s like cutting the branch one sits on. Science and technology have given you all gadgets of comfort, but in the process POLLUTED AIR & WATER (what is the use of gadgets of comfort if you cannot breathe pure air and drink pure water?), and have been leading the ecosystem into a great catastrophe.

This vindicates the core-teaching of JW that God’s Kingdom is the ONLY remedy which they have been CONSISTENTLY proclaiming from their very inception!