Posts by KateWild

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Waking someone up using WT Article on "Doubts"?

by cappytan in

has anyone had success in using this article to convince their family member or spouse that critical research of what the society presents is important to build faith?.

this article has this passage that jumped out at me:.

of course, not all doubt is bad.

KateWild

Cappytan,

This is the problem with a cult. There are levels of information control they employ in the WT. Some information is for the public, some for rank and file and some for elders and so on.

This is rank and file information. WT want all JWs to think that critical thinking is a must and that they all do it, but the elders condemn anyone who criticises the WT or GB. So all JWs know you can have critical thinking as long as you agree with the WT and GB always as they are always right.

This doesn't sit well with many and they develop cognitive dissonance, they wake up and leave WT eventually.

I have woken up family members. Our family experience was awful and waking them up to TTATT was easy as they new the wrong that we were experiencing.

Kate xx

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Recorded argument with elders trying to DF someone

by Jay Elle in

this video may have been posted here before but it is new to me.

the lingo seems very very famillar with the bullying that the elders give us all.

they want their pound of flesh...but call it loving and theocratic.

KateWild

I am in the UK it didn't work for me either. Kate xx

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Out of the cocoon on Ebay

by boyzone in

this is an excellent read and i thoroughly enjoyed reading brenda's experience, so much of which i could relate to.

if you'd like to read it too, please check out my ebay listing.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121544714761?sspagename=strk:meselx:it&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649.

KateWild

I have heard of this one. There are so many good books out there that can help us heal if we have been through the same experience. It makes us feel less alone.

I have not really come across anything for me though. I suffered DV and was DF'd for exposing it. I know many other cases of DV this has happened too but not come across a book written about the mishandling of DV in WT.

Kate xx

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Need to vent: Wife just went in full cult mode, huge fight. she is so brainwashed

by goingthruthemotions in

jw
friends

out of the blue my wife started to ask me about my feeling about the borg.

i told her i didn't want to talk about it...she persisted.

she already knows how i feel, i told her that my biggest beef is that they use mind control, and yep she went in to how i was an apostate and how she doesn't want to be married to an apostate.

KateWild

GTTM,

Very sad indeed. You know what's in her heart and she knows what's in yours. The trouble is there is no middle ground at the moment. So very sad. I am really sorry. I wish there was some advice I could give you to save your marriage, but you're wife is seriously stuck in cult mode and out to expose you it seems.

Kate xx

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downton.org

by freemindfade in

i hate to out myself like this... but was watching downton abbey with the wife .

and anyway, there are a lot of high control similarities to the aristocracy and other control groups and cult etc.

there are fascinating bits constantly exposing how the an elite class are self ordained to be in such a position, and completely unqualified in many ways, something not as educated as a lowly school teacher of the time, or not as driven by questioning and truth as a lowly drive, but just do as your told... because... anyway this is not my main point, what i am getting at is in the last episode i caught (spoiler alert) it was a big deal for them to get a "wireless" basically a radio, in the house.. you can constantly see how the establishment is threatened by people being informed or exposed to outside people and ideas.

KateWild

Maggie Smith is fabulous. She was so funny when she said that. I can see your point why the GB are now losing their mystery and aloofness. I think it's especially true when they speak extemporaneously and say outright silly things.

Kate xx

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Jehovah's Witness Elders Question A Brother For Not Turning In Field Service Time

by Watchtower-Free in

found this on youtube.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3zlxley6u.

KateWild

Those who turn in a few fake hours are left alone.-Ding

Well Jehovah knows and will bring it out in his own time. Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nonsense.

Kate xx

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Need to vent: Wife just went in full cult mode, huge fight. she is so brainwashed

by goingthruthemotions in

jw
friends

out of the blue my wife started to ask me about my feeling about the borg.

i told her i didn't want to talk about it...she persisted.

she already knows how i feel, i told her that my biggest beef is that they use mind control, and yep she went in to how i was an apostate and how she doesn't want to be married to an apostate.

KateWild

My husband who was an elder at the time was doubting and I gave him heck over it and it was the beginning oof the end for us. I am now out, he is still in and remarried to another JW sister.- whathappened

OMG what a total hypocrite. So he is in and lying to his new wife, or is he out and living in a divided household. Whatever he did his life must suck now either way.

Kate xx

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Need to vent: Wife just went in full cult mode, huge fight. she is so brainwashed

by goingthruthemotions in

jw
friends

out of the blue my wife started to ask me about my feeling about the borg.

i told her i didn't want to talk about it...she persisted.

she already knows how i feel, i told her that my biggest beef is that they use mind control, and yep she went in to how i was an apostate and how she doesn't want to be married to an apostate.

KateWild

GTTM,

Oh dear. I am so sorry this happened. Your wife know clearly how you feel and she obviously wants to get it all out into the open. It's awful this argument happened in front of the kids.

I really feel for you. It really looks like divorce may be on the cards, unless you fake it for her which I don't think you will. Besides it won't be any good for the kids if they already know how you feel and that WT is breaking up their family.

Think things through clearly and try not to have a messy future. My divorce was a nightmare and if I can help you in any way to make things smoother for you I will.

Thinking of you GTTM.

Take care

Kate xx

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Jehovah's Witness Elders Question A Brother For Not Turning In Field Service Time

by Watchtower-Free in

found this on youtube.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3zlxley6u.

KateWild

SG098,

Glad you're out well done. Thanks for giving us an update.

Kate xx

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Why a doubter/fader CANNOT participate in Family Worship/ How to get out it," WT Style."

by DATA-DOG in

family worship night is a boring, depressing, stifling, watchtarded indoctrination/brainwashing session.

it never ends.

like all things wt, there is no end in sight.

KateWild

I think doing a FW night like this could be good once to see if the other family members are responsive. I then did FW with my son and we studied jwsurvey.org and jwfacts.com. It worked for us. Both my kids are mentally out now.

DD I think you're struggling staying in at the moment you need to skip a couple of meetings perhaps. I am concerned for you.

Take care

Kate xx