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Why I'm not agnostic
by Coded Logic in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.
KateWild

Cofty scientists most definitely do guide the process.....I pasted a quote from the paper a few posts ago.
To form a homochiral solution in the lab catalysts are required and extreme pressure and temperatures that are different to earth's natural temperatures and pressures are required.
I disagree, there is no way you are going to convince me that the scientists conducting all these experiments do not guide the process of homochirality. A racemic mixture is what results from no guidance by scientists.
Kate xx
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Why I'm not agnostic
by Coded Logic in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.
KateWild

Codedlogic,
You're nearly there. But not quite.
Enantionmers form a racemic mixture in the lab, but form a homochiral solution in nature.
In the lab scientists have to catalyse the experiment to form the homochiral solution. They guide the process.
Hence I conclude it's more probable that the process in nature had to be guided too
Kate xx
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Why I'm not agnostic
by Coded Logic in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.
KateWild

Cofty I respect that you have done all the research into independent studies, but I think they demonstrate the process was guided.
I understand why you draw the opposite conclusion to me, but I disagree.
Good for you for talking chirality with me though. I am impressed with your consideration of the facts and your understanding of chemistry.
I love you cofty
Kate xx
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Why I'm not agnostic
by Coded Logic in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.
KateWild

Landy,
I don't ascribe things I don't understand to God at all.
If you read carefully all of Cofty's and my exchanges you will see I am ascribing my knowledge to the probability evolution must have been guided at the point of amino acids.
Why are you convinced the formation of amino acids was an unguided process?
Kate xx
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Why I'm not agnostic
by Coded Logic in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.
KateWild

Codedlogic,
The study of homochirality in nature and racemic mixtures in the lab drew me to the conclusion it's more probable that a creator guided this process than it proceeding with no guidance.
But I have already said this in the thread on my first post Codedlogic.
Do you really want to know how I draw my conclusions?
Have you read the paper Cofty posted?
Kate xx
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any Near death experiences any one can relate
by baker in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbkgj5j91he.

this is as close as it gets to the other side....
KateWild

What exactly did he experience?
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OK!!!!ITS ME!!!!
by brandnew in
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2. friends
so y'all dont think im always a lil mad puppy 😂😂😂.
KateWild

Brandnew,
Looking good
Kate xx x
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Why I'm not agnostic
by Coded Logic in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.
KateWild

SBF,
Good point that's something to think about
Kate xx
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Why I'm not agnostic
by Coded Logic in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.
KateWild

Landy,
I am not trying to convince you to change your ideas. But you have disagreed without supporting your point with any scientific evidence I am wrong.
I don't want to be wrong any longer than is necessary, but with the scientific evidence I have its more probable to me there is a creator.
Thank you for your participation though
Kate xx
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Why I'm not agnostic
by Coded Logic in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.
KateWild

Codedlogic,
My point is a scientific point and to be more specific the evidence that chemistry supports.
They way you ask multiple questions in one go suggests to me you're not really interested in my perspective. But I will answer as much as I can as I am on my phone right now.
I assesd the probability of an intelligent being guiding evolution by my study of chemistry. Cofty understands my points clearly and made an effort to research the chemistry and scientific studies himself and has drawn his own conclusion. I respect this very much. I suggest you read my responses to him and the articles he posted to get answers to your questions if you really want to understand my point of view.
Lol God could be an alien I haven't ruled that out. But alien just refers to not belonging or unknown.
I hope you have all the answers you need from all my posts thus far.
Kate xx