Posts by KateWild

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Did you KNOW Ray and Cynthia or the legal copyright holder? Only a few maybe had limited contact.

by blondie in

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i have known all of them over the last 15 years, talked at length with them, and knew what their wishes were, the copyright holder and spouse spent even more time with them socially and helping them set up their arrangements for when ray and cynthia passed.

i don't believe that anyone else on this board or others was a confidant.

there is no need to prove it to anyone but the copyright office which is satisfied with this.

KateWild

Just checking in for an update. Any news of developments?

There is a new poster that would benefit from COC.

Kate xx

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

KateWild

Scared and Lonely,

I have just seen your post now and I can see you are in immanent danger of being disfellowshiped as you have already disagreed with doctrine openly, and you are regarded as an apostate.

I am in the UK too. Liverpool. You are not from my circuit I would recognise you. It's a real shame. Where in the UK are you? I gave up my career to pioneer and when I left WT I had no way to support myself.

I now work in the CAB, citizens advice, they will help you with housing, employment and benefits. Alliteratively I can help you personally. I will send you my phone number in a PM.

This is totally the reason I still post here to help ones like you.

Kate xx

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Need to vent: My loathing for the JW cult increases more and more, while my wife clings more and more to it

by goingthruthemotions in

just as i think my loathing for the jw cult has peaked, it goes higher and higher.

i wish this cult would just go away.

i wish my wife would just wake up.

KateWild

GTTM,

You seem pretty stressed. You are clearly worried about the repercussions of leaving while your wife is still in and you feel sick to the stomach staying in. You need to think about changing something as you are really stressed and it's not doing any of you any good.

Hope you take the leap soon and free yourself.

Kate xx

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What makes a WORLD famous musician?

by The Rebel in

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my brother attended a college for those who " f..led" up at school and got a second chance to do the exams.

anyway george michael and andy ridgley, were two of those fu..k ups, and my brother was quite friendly with both.

as a result i met george and andy before they found fame with wham.. geri hallaway ( spice girl) also came from watford when she grew up and was a friend of my sister ( her mum a j.w) and i once spoke with geri on the phone when she rang asking to speak with my sister.

KateWild

Yes Rebel it was a little village called Hatch End close to Bushey Heath, that's where I grew up and where Andrew Ridgleys parents lived in the 80's. It was in a road called Braeside Close, it was after Wham were already famous and I don't think Andy ever lived with his parents there, they just came to visit.

It's nice that we have something in common Rebel

Kate xx

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What makes a WORLD famous musician?

by The Rebel in

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my brother attended a college for those who " f..led" up at school and got a second chance to do the exams.

anyway george michael and andy ridgley, were two of those fu..k ups, and my brother was quite friendly with both.

as a result i met george and andy before they found fame with wham.. geri hallaway ( spice girl) also came from watford when she grew up and was a friend of my sister ( her mum a j.w) and i once spoke with geri on the phone when she rang asking to speak with my sister.

KateWild

It's all about the PR, Rebel. Good PR makes a good performer and one who does exactly as the producers say. To be talented doesn't come into it.

By the way I used to deliver milk and newspapers to Andrew Ridgley's parents home, and we often used to see George and Andy locally walking about.

Kate xx

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Well, I've done it..........

by wannaexit in

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i have successfully deprogrammed my first dub.. my very good friend has finally seen the light.

i am so happy that the shackles have come off.

she is in the process of reading coc and has stopped going to meetings.. i have made my first apostate disciple.. wannaexit

KateWild

Wannexit,

Thank you so much for telling us this news. It's great that she is totally awake and she is also reading CoC this will keep her from doubting anything and help her to remain out.

Well done

Kate xx

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Hello everyone. New here looking for info and friends

by Harvard Illiterate 411 in

i sometimes was redirected to this page from reddit or another ex-jw site but never bothered to sign up.

i wanted to stay off the radar but since i'm getting dis-fellowshipped anyways and have no plans to come back what the hell.

been 22 years in the truth........... ahhhh i hate to use that expression...... bad habit but you know what i mean.

KateWild

Welcome to the board Harvard,

You have done well to escape. Drinking excessively and smoking may have helped you to lose weight, but is it really making you healthier?

I understand why you want to enjoy some vices, but be careful. We are only saying these things because we care about your future.

Take care

Kate xx

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Would you ever......?

by ctrwtf in

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list as an accomplishment on a resume, "i escaped from a mind control doomsday cult?".

sometimes when i reflect on it, the magnitude of this accomplishment amazes me..

KateWild

Well I pioneered for four years and gave up my career as a chemical analyst for the GB.

So when I left I put on my CV I was a bible teacher to help me get the voluntary job I have now.

Employers don't like to see gaps in your CV. They also like to know reason for leaving previous job. So I have put it all.

Kate xx

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Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

KateWild

Here we go again with the bucket chemistry comment lol xx

Cofty,

I really do understand your perspective but you fail to understand mine. The difference between an autocatalyst and a catalyst is that the catalyst is a chemical used to speed up or guide the reaction and does not get used up in the reaction and does not change it's molecular configuration. An auotocatalyst is a molecule that is part of the reaction and steers the reaction to produce the end products.

You say that because these are naturally occurring this is evidence of no guidance, because it happened spontaneously when amino acids evolved. This is a valid perspective. You have done the research and drawn this conclusion and you strive to think for yourself.

I have a different perspective, I read papers with diagrams of the chemical reactions that Soai did. It is very interesting and I am grateful that you and cantleave (Angus) informed me of these experiments. But what I see is intervention when looking at the diagrams. The autocatalysis that occurs is for samantics sake spontaneous, but this reinforces my theory that the reaction is guided. The following paper has the diagrams to show that the the reaction from raw material to product is guided in a particular direction.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ar5003208

Scheme 3 is simply a discovery of what occurs in nature without the intervention of a chiral substance, and then the further reaction of the autocatalysis.

This is evidence to me that in nature the chemical reaction is guided. But it's proof to you it happened without intervention. Just different perspectives.

Kate xx

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Why I'm not agnostic

by Coded Logic in

i think the time to be agnostic is when you have evidence on both sides of a claim.

for example, i'm agnostic about the existence of a historical jesus.

i think a reasonable case can be made that jesus was a man who was turned into a legend over a period of a couple of decades.

KateWild

Codedlogic,

You are wrong about what the article shows. It does not state the organic molecule forming a homochiral solution without a catalyst. You misunderstood it as you are seeing only what you want to see to prove your own confirmation bias.

Now unless you're also a chemical analyst which I doubt, this paper shows clearly what I already know about the formation of amino acids in nature.

The article is clear about asymmetric reactions. All unguided attempts will always form a racemic mixture in the lab. That is a fact. It's science. It's chemistry. It's why the mistake of thalidomide happened and scientists have learned from their mistakes. This is one if the pharmaceuticals the article is referring to.

Your elephant pictures are great but you're changing the subject. I don't think you have read the article properly or understood all the chemistry in it.

Kate xx