Posts by KateWild

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Kids continue to leave in droves - so what is the organization's grand plan? This

by sir82 in

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jws have one of the worst, if not the worst, retention rates among their kids.

i've seen numbers from 65% to 88% who leave, never to return.. you'd think this would be a priority amongst the leadership, right?

where do tomorrow's leaders come from, if the vast majority of kids leave the organization?

KateWild

Yep they are leaving, my daughter's friend told her he is recently "mentally out but physically in" in his words. He won't be there long.

He saw clips of the ARC on youtube and been surfing everything since then.

Kate xx

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

Personally, I could care less if someone attributes evolution to a higher power's influence, as long as they accept the fact that it's obviously true and realize that the Genesis creation narrative simply isn't literal history (which, IMO, is the only real obstacle to accepting evolution, anyway). - Vidiot

I agree, the Genesis account is a false teaching if people actually believe it, and I also agree that it's the only obstacle to accepting evolution. As far as the UK schools teach evolution not the Genesis account, so no real obstacles there.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

You used a very specific example yet all you have explained is that you think the process could be being guided by God. - K99

I did not state this anywhere on this thread. If you think I did please show me.

The fact that I keep asking for more information is proof I am very interested in understanding your perspective. - K99

It can also be proof that you're trying to prove me wrong, and I don't play those games.

An avowed atheist might say "I have drawn the conclusion that natural selection is a valid and reasonable explanation for all the molecules being left handed because the hypothesis is not disproved by the facts and follows the pattern of scientific explanation for many, many other and similar bio-chemical processes." - K99

Is this what you're saying K99?

I have drawn the conclusion that evolution is guided and is a valid and reasonable explanation for all the molecules being left handed because the hypothesis is not disproved by the facts.

Nothing has been proved or disproved. If you have proof by all means start a thread and share your proof.

I still don't understand how you made yours up and I really, really, really am really, really, really interested to do so. - K99

There are things I don't understand too, it's all a matter of getting yourself better educated in the topic if it's so important to you, but I don't believe you're interested at all.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

I think homochirality is a millstone around the neck of abiogenesis. I think the first proteins couldn't arise from a primordial soup with only racemic ingredients. - redpill

I agree with your statement about abiogenesis. I am not qualified in that area, but it is another example of the facts being only partially conclusive. I also agree with your statement about the primordial soup, the conditions had to be exactly right to evolve enantiomers.

Thanks for your opinions.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

I'm finding you are being evasive about this...provide references please that relate to your point of view as to why you conclude what you conclude...it just can't be your OP? - Notsure

I apologise if you feel I am being evasive. But I feel your questions are off topic. This thread is about my conclusion based on the formation of enantiomers in nature. I encourage you to do your own research, I don't understand why you need to know everything about all my conclusions. I have made 6151 posts and started 147 topics.

In all these posts I have had discussions about why I draw certain conclusions, about different subjects. Feel free to have a look at them and really get to know me. That's great. But I am not a solution to your inquisitive mind, I cannot guide you to reach the same conclusions as me. I don't like preachers of any kind, Christians, Atheists, Conservatives, Liberals or vegetarians. So I am not convincing anyone of anything.

If you have something specific you have read in my history that you want more clarification on please send me a PM or resurrect the thread in question. I will be happy to respond.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

"why" is simple: you already chose the conclusion and now try to twist the facts and reasoning to reach it to somehow make the concept of god necessary. - Simon

Hey Simon, Time for Canada to join in. Well your statement is the best yet. And it's something I do question about myself. Am I biased? I try to look at the facts impartially and then draw my conclusions, and I like to think I am being impartial, but I cannot with a good conscience say I am totally impartial.

But I think that is true for everyone, we all have some kind of bias and the facts then fit our bias. I was at a point in my life where I did not know what I believed and I was truly unbiased, and then formed my opinions

I agree with you that I could be biased as are people who draw the opposite conclusion. We are all just confirming our bias. Would you agree?

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

I am interested in what they are for the simple reason I have yet to find such evidence to make me conclude that evolution was guided and I want to know if there are any. - Notsure

If you are still searching for an answer then that's good to admit. I am not a good leader although I have a sat nav. My conclusions are personal to me as yours should be to you. Evidence can be subjective sometimes when it's not 100 % conclusive. That's where free thinking comes into play.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

But why is it your conclusion? - K99

Looks like we are going round in circles. It seems you are not really interested in understanding my perspective. I started this thread to explain my conclusions and I have done that.

Given that there is an alternative and reasonable explanation, why is it that you have concluded God is guiding it? - K99

As I have already said to Bhom, in my view it's more probable.

I have an open mind Kate and am happy to be convinced. The question is what can you add to your argument that convinces? - K99

I don't want to convince people that my view is correct. I want to encourage free thinking. Science has the facts and science is impartial. People then are free draw their own conclusions.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

Sorry Kate, all I am interested in is how you come to your conclusion...that evolution was guided...- Notsure

It's in my OP and you disagree. Life would be boring if we all agreed.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

But for believers in God, well I mean, did God guide this? Did he mean it so that most species go extinct? So that most individuals die before their natural lifespan ends? - LUHE

I don't know what God meant to do or why. He has never told me anything. I don't think he really gives a shit about anyone or anything. It's like when I built a sandcastle, it was fun and educational, but when it was finished I didn't give a thought about it's feelings and whether or not it would be washed away by the sea. I was thoughtless about my creation.