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  I conclude evolution is guided

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  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  That's my conclusion... you can come to your conclusion from a diferent perspective and thats ok. - cyberjesus

  That's basically what Simon said too. And I can't say I am without bias, we are all bias to some degree
  
  
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  So why not humour K99 and notsurwwherwtogo and answer what they want- Giles

  I did
  
  
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  Kate: can you prove the Care Bears didn't create the universe? If not, then there is an equal chance that they did instead of your god. - Simon

  lol hahaha. Actually I can. There is a peer reviewed paper on the internet, that described how the care bears were created and the fact that the experiment of 2000 care bears ability to produce a flower from sand resulted in 100% of them being unsuccessful. Therefore the scientists concluded they did not create the universe.

  Very interesting have a read

  https://www.themittani.com/features/creation-carebears-risk-and-new-players?nopaging=1

  
  
  
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  To illustrate: I will take on your point and claim that I can 100% prove that a creator doesn't exist. Nothing. Zilch. There's naught there. But I'm not going to give you the details of why I believe that because I think you have an agenda and you are "out to prove me wrong".
  Wouldn't that reaction be seen as a little transparent? - Giles

  Yes you're right. That's why I don't do that. I haven't done that in this thread. I clearly gave details about why we can draw different conclusions based on the same scientific evidence. I did not refuse to engage at all.
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  I have explained it to Kate at least three or four times but she just keeps singing lalalalalala..- cofty

  You're explanation is flawed, you say things like it's not magic. But you haven't defined the difference between autocatalysis and catalysis as proof that it couldn't be guided process. I do understand why you think it happened by an unguided process and by chance, I just don't think it's probable because of the percentages of homochiral molecules in nature. It's the same probability as getting heads 99 times out of 100.

  So therefore my conclusion is completely different from unfounded beliefs, my conclusion is based on scientific data.
  
  

  Kate please explain succinctly how your challenge is different in principle from the following...
  Believer - Rainbows are amazing, therefore god
  Rational person - Science has explained the physical laws that cause a rainbow. It is caused by the refraction of light. Different wavelengths of light diffract by different amounts.
  Believer - Those laws are amazing, therefore god.

  I explained it above with the coin toss example. The way you suggest in your imaginary conversation that believer's are irrational is prejudicial. Some atheists are irrational too. People are not irrational just because of their religious beliefs some people are irrational because they are stubborn and conceited and feel the need to prove they are right all the time.
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  When you say evolution is "guided" do you mean by natural and sexual selection? Or are you talking about something else? - Coded logic

  That's a good point. It could be natural selection or a creator using the method of natural selection. I would like to see if science produces some experimentation to answer this question with definitive results.
  
  
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  If you won't engage in debate with people then how can you be 'proven wrong'? It's the perfect defence when you fear you are wrong. If you don't give anything away you can't be challenged. - Giles

  I have engaged in debate, and have made my point clear. I don't mind if I am wrong. Wrong about what exactly? I have actually been very clear that I don't think I am right, I just have drawn my own conclusions. What do you challenge Giles?
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  So you refuse to debate the details of your conclusions with other people because you have an aversion to being publically 'proven wrong'? - Giles

  First of all, if anyone has proof that a creator does or doesn't exist I would love to see it. Secondly I haven't refused to debate at all. I have just pointed out an agenda. If K99 had identified as atheist and was trying to prove me wrong I would have still had a debate with him.

  I publicly express my opinion and views regularly, and I have not been proven wrong.
  
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  Ruby,

  Thanks for your post. Glad you can see my perspective and it's clear for you.
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  KateWild

  Life is, in essence, energy exchange. At the molecular level energy is exchanged chemically and this energy always falls down the easiest path. Chemical energy can be of differing values and molecules favour certain chemical energy values. Molecules that are chiral do not like the same chemical energy values or to put it another way chemical energy of certain values will favour a specific handedness. That one version of a chiral molecule is favoured over another is to be expected rather than unexpected. - whatshallicallmyself

  This does not make sense chemically. I am talking about homochirality in living things in nature and racemic solutions in non living chemicals and other objects. Do you mean that homochirality is expected over racemic mixtures?

  I don't expect either. I see the evidence of both, if that's what you're referring to.