Posts by KateWild

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

Giles you are not being specific. I explained my conclusion and they didn't feel it was an explanation. But I did. My OP explains my conclusions to my satisfaction. If it doesn't satisfy some people that's okay.

I only started this thread because K99 asked me a question. So I answered it. We have both been here for a while and had lot's of communication. We are online friends and respect each other.

I think I have answered everyone to my satisfaction.

Simon, if I am annoying you or irritating you in any way feel free to lock or delete the thread.

I am logging off now, so if anyone else has anymore questions or points I will reply next time I am online.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

If you come to opposite different conclusions based on the evidence. That invalidates using that evidence for any conclusion. - cyberjesus

This is true, and evidence is subjective too, some people see things as evidence that others do not. I base my conclusions on what I see as evidence. Some people agree with me and some don't. I don't think anybody's conclusion is definitive though, especially not mine.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

That's my conclusion... you can come to your conclusion from a diferent perspective and thats ok. - cyberjesus

That's basically what Simon said too. And I can't say I am without bias, we are all bias to some degree

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

So why not humour K99 and notsurwwherwtogo and answer what they want- Giles

I did

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

Kate: can you prove the Care Bears didn't create the universe? If not, then there is an equal chance that they did instead of your god. - Simon

lol hahaha. Actually I can. There is a peer reviewed paper on the internet, that described how the care bears were created and the fact that the experiment of 2000 care bears ability to produce a flower from sand resulted in 100% of them being unsuccessful. Therefore the scientists concluded they did not create the universe.

Very interesting have a read

https://www.themittani.com/features/creation-carebears-risk-and-new-players?nopaging=1

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

To illustrate: I will take on your point and claim that I can 100% prove that a creator doesn't exist. Nothing. Zilch. There's naught there. But I'm not going to give you the details of why I believe that because I think you have an agenda and you are "out to prove me wrong".
Wouldn't that reaction be seen as a little transparent? - Giles

Yes you're right. That's why I don't do that. I haven't done that in this thread. I clearly gave details about why we can draw different conclusions based on the same scientific evidence. I did not refuse to engage at all.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

I have explained it to Kate at least three or four times but she just keeps singing lalalalalala..- cofty

You're explanation is flawed, you say things like it's not magic. But you haven't defined the difference between autocatalysis and catalysis as proof that it couldn't be guided process. I do understand why you think it happened by an unguided process and by chance, I just don't think it's probable because of the percentages of homochiral molecules in nature. It's the same probability as getting heads 99 times out of 100.

So therefore my conclusion is completely different from unfounded beliefs, my conclusion is based on scientific data.

Kate please explain succinctly how your challenge is different in principle from the following...
Believer - Rainbows are amazing, therefore god
Rational person - Science has explained the physical laws that cause a rainbow. It is caused by the refraction of light. Different wavelengths of light diffract by different amounts.
Believer - Those laws are amazing, therefore god.

I explained it above with the coin toss example. The way you suggest in your imaginary conversation that believer's are irrational is prejudicial. Some atheists are irrational too. People are not irrational just because of their religious beliefs some people are irrational because they are stubborn and conceited and feel the need to prove they are right all the time.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

When you say evolution is "guided" do you mean by natural and sexual selection? Or are you talking about something else? - Coded logic

That's a good point. It could be natural selection or a creator using the method of natural selection. I would like to see if science produces some experimentation to answer this question with definitive results.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

If you won't engage in debate with people then how can you be 'proven wrong'? It's the perfect defence when you fear you are wrong. If you don't give anything away you can't be challenged. - Giles

I have engaged in debate, and have made my point clear. I don't mind if I am wrong. Wrong about what exactly? I have actually been very clear that I don't think I am right, I just have drawn my own conclusions. What do you challenge Giles?

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

So you refuse to debate the details of your conclusions with other people because you have an aversion to being publically 'proven wrong'? - Giles

First of all, if anyone has proof that a creator does or doesn't exist I would love to see it. Secondly I haven't refused to debate at all. I have just pointed out an agenda. If K99 had identified as atheist and was trying to prove me wrong I would have still had a debate with him.

I publicly express my opinion and views regularly, and I have not been proven wrong.