Cyber God keeps deleting it lol. I think God needs you to send me a friend request on Facebook xx
KateWild
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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KateWild
Cofty, send me a friend request it's on my wall. But you can only see it if you're my Facebook friend.
Simon. You are very clever. I have never underestimated you.
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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KateWild
Lol Simon. You're great hahaha.
Could you please edit my grammar too. The grammar police just picked it up. Thanks
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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KateWild
Actually can I change my mind again?This was on Facebook.
Cofty, it keeps disappearing. Perhaps it's too controversial for JWN. Facebook must not be a credible source.
BTW thanks for proof reading for me and picking up on my grammar mistakes.
Look at your messenger on Facebook I have sent you photographic evidence.
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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KateWild
I think you are already doing a stellar job. The atheist coalition for world domination thanks you for your contribution
Thanks, how do I join the coalition or is my membership ID card and certificate in the post?
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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KateWild
Cofty,
Clearly you're chemistry is correct and mine is incorrect. I stand corrected by the authority of science on this forum. I am sorry about all the errors I have made you are right. I am now an Atheist, thank you for converting me.
K99,
You're right, I am being narrow minded. I clearly see why it's not okay for me to call cofty narrow minded, but it's okay to call me narrow. I was being rude and you were being helpful. Now that I am an Atheist I will be more open minded like you. Thank you for helping Cofty to convert me. The penny has dropped and my eyes are opened.
Viv, I know now what example means thank you.
How can I help to convert others to Atheism?
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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KateWild
Simon,
Thanks for letting me post on your forum. I appreciate that in spite of the fact you feel I am an attention seeker you are very kind in allowing the privilege of free speech here, and being allowed to express my views. You're a kind and caring leader.
It's my pleasure to follow you Simon.
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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KateWild
Like others, you can't even maintain an open mind that makes no conclusion. You seem to have to maintain a belief yet you cannot explain, reason or justify this belief. It's so nebulous, so woolly and abstract that you are even prepared to suggest that it's an entity of your own definition. Please correct me if I've misunderstood your position. If not, then it has to be the most bonkers position I have heard in a long time. – K99
You have misunderstood my position because you haven’t told me why the coin toss simplification is a narrow minded, inexplicable reason to have the opinion that guided evolution is more probable than unguided evolution. Saying I am bonkers for believing in God is kind of prejudicial. Don’t you think it’s a bit hypocritical to call people narrow minded on this thread, if I have already apologised for calling cofty narrow minded?
Do you think all people that believe in God are bonkers? Do you know any believers that are not bonkers?
Personally I think Dawkins is bonkers.
Because no coin toss is influenced by previous tosses nor influences future tosses. In autocatalysis, the initial toss completely determines the outcome. There are no more tosses, it's all physics and chemistry happening according to well known rules. – Viv
This is all the more reason why a coin toss is a good example. 2p always is influenced to be heads, and 5p is always influenced to be tails. Being influenced infers guidance. The initial toss in a 10p or 20p is always influenced the same way to always 50/50, the 10p with a slight imbalance always and the 20p always exactly 50/50. The well known chemistry rules, guide the toss. Just like cantleave has already said a few pages ago.
Cofty gave an outline on page 23. I was wondering if you would be able to take a few minutes of your time to post an outline of your main points, please.Is the coin toss illustration the outline of your main points? Are there any more main points to come or do I already have the lot? – OzGirl
Sorry to take so long to reply. There are more main points
Skip to Summary and main points
I am going to explain it in terms of a coin toss and probabilities. Cofty, I know you think it’s NOTHING like a coin toss. I saw your caps lock comment before you deleted it, using caps lock doesn’t substantiate your point. Explain succinctly why a coin toss explanation is wrong. If you prefer to use caps lock to explain it feel free to do so, but caps lock has no bearing on any information I read.
I am going to assign…………….
l-enantiomer = heads
d-enantiomer = tails
Alanine = 2p
Glucose = 5p
Methanol = 10p
Tartaric acid = 20p
The size of the coins has no bearing on scale in relation to the size of the molecule. I just assigned the coins randomly. You could invert the assignment too if you like.
Toss a 2p 100 times autocatalysis always occurs you get 99 heads
Toss a 5p 100 times autocatalysis always occurs you get 99 tails (never heads)
Toss a 10p 100 times autocatalysis never occurs you get 48 heads 52 tails or 52 heads 48 tails (slight imbalance)
Toss a 20p 100 times autocatalysis never occurs you get 50 heads 50 tails (never an imbalance)
The probability of these results without guidance is lower than the probability of these results with guidance. Each different coin or chemical will always yield the same results.
Belief in God for me alone is based on my knowledge as a chemical analyst. I am not a scientist, or chemist. I only have experience in quality control analysis. In my opinion no one can prove god does or doesn’t exist. In my opinion we should respect everyone regardless of religious beliefs unless they want to kill us because of those beliefs.
Some Atheists can be very forceful with their opinions and some believers can be forceful too. In an ideal world we would all respect each others beliefs, but we don’t live in an ideal world.
The only reason I commented on this thread, is the danger that a new member, a new lurker came and saw that post title and without the means to fact check it was misled. Kate this is VERY dangerous. – Snare
I agree if people believe without checking facts they could be misled, it was not my intention to mislead new lurkers.
We are pals Kate, this isn't personal. But let's be frank. You are out of your depth scientifically and you really don't have sufficient training, education or knowledge to discuss this or make these conclusions, decisions.- Snare
Yes we are pals, I do consider you one of my friends from this site. You’re right I don’t have sufficient education to write a peer reviewed paper with these conclusions, but Cofty doesn’t either. He has not studied any sciences at university level like you, me and canteave have. He does not declare his qualifications on the forum in spite being asked multiple times.
You believe, you have faith, as assured expectation of things 'hoped' for. This can't be mixed with science – Snare
We are pals yes, I can do what I like now within reason, I have free speech, I don’t need hard facts, I am not making extraordinary claims, I am simply explaining to an atheist,K99, why I have the opinions I do, and I mixed faith and science together. No big deal. It’s just Sam’s ideas.
This is why people get angry at threads such as this. – Snare
I didn’t realise people were angry, I was simply answering a question, it was not my intention to provoke anger Snare. I apologise.
Kate I think you still don't get the significance of a point that I explained pages back.
4 - A tiny difference in the size of two competing populations of autocatalytic molecules will be amplified exponentially. - coftyPutting it in bold doesn’t make it true. Cofty I think you still don’t get the significance of a point that I explained three years ago. In racemic mixtures there is a tiny difference in size of “the competing populations” or the l- and d- enantiomers and the molecules do not amplify exponentially. Only in meso compounds is there no tiny difference.
Cofty, did you study Chemistry at university like me? If not I find your chemistry posts not credible to me. If others find them credible then fine. Ask cantleave he will tell you your chemistry is wrong.
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Chrome or Edge Browser? Which is Better?
by KateWild inso i finally am on windows 10. my computer kept asking me and i kept refusing, but then it went to a countdown and before i had a chance to stop it, it was updating, and i couldn't use my laptop for the full 1000 year reign of jesus christ.. when i finally could use it, i had a problem opening chrome with all my favourite apps or pages stored.
sometimes i have to open edge for for chrome to open.
but i have had a little go a edge.. edge has a different search engine to google, anyone know what it is?
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KateWild
Thanks Simon, I will return the new one and do as you advise, and what my friend advised too. Thanks
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Chrome or Edge Browser? Which is Better?
by KateWild inso i finally am on windows 10. my computer kept asking me and i kept refusing, but then it went to a countdown and before i had a chance to stop it, it was updating, and i couldn't use my laptop for the full 1000 year reign of jesus christ.. when i finally could use it, i had a problem opening chrome with all my favourite apps or pages stored.
sometimes i have to open edge for for chrome to open.
but i have had a little go a edge.. edge has a different search engine to google, anyone know what it is?
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KateWild
My friend actually also advised me I shouldn't buy a laptop today. He told me to think about it for a week, and do more research. He told me I was being too impetuous. Okay I will return it and say I made a mistake.
My old laptop seems to be really fast tonight, for some reason.