improper to peruse their information-ADCMS
Control of information, a distinguishing practice of cults. WT is a cult. Kate xx
this seems to be a real worry for 'faders' on a number of threads.
the responses to ducati's first posting.
is a good example.
improper to peruse their information-ADCMS
Control of information, a distinguishing practice of cults. WT is a cult. Kate xx
i was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.
i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.
i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.
His mum knows he is likely to be gay. Love is unconditional.-abba
LOL! Mums always know if they pay attention to their kids, yes love is unconditional. I wish the boy all the best for his future and I hope the church always support him no matter what his sexual orientation is in the future
So when my wife catches me in bed with another woman, I can tell her that it isn't my fault. I am genetically predisposed to being a horny dog.-Mrhhome
Sexual promiscuity has nothing to do with sexual orientation. If people are disposed to being promiscuious it is a choice and evidence of a lack of self control and morals. There is no promiscuity gene. There is a predisposition for some to have addictive personalities and some are addicted to sex and multiple partners, gay and straight. But most people see it morally superior to be monogamous and have self control. Hence the gay couple wanting to get married and be recognised as monogamous.
I feel your comparrison isn't appropriate I am afraid.
Kate xx
this seems to be a real worry for 'faders' on a number of threads.
the responses to ducati's first posting.
is a good example.
The CO also ranted and raved about abusive Eldubs and " God help them if they abuse the flock." So there is some serious sh** hitting a big ass fan somewhere.- DD
Well DD, I see this from a slightly different perspective now that I am completely out. I have heard COs say this ever since I got unjustly taken off pioneering 5 yrs ago. I was asking too many questions and exposing wrongdoings of COBEs wife who was a pioneer.
IMO I think they say this for the flocks sake and teach the elders in the flock book the complete opposite. The Flock book IMO is just a book to keep the r&f in line, in an abusive way. Not a book that teaches men to be caring and considerate of the sheep.
That's my opinion DD, what do you think? Could I be right?
I think elders are going to be more abusive and start calling disloyal ones apostates.
Kate xx
this seems to be a real worry for 'faders' on a number of threads.
the responses to ducati's first posting.
is a good example.
I am not worried about the elders "spying" on me. I have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide. In fact I would love them to listen to the JC recording, and my youtube. I would love them to see my perspective of why I am out the WT.
In fact I think they are more worried of me than I am of them, worried of exposing their JC meeting for what it is. A kangaroo court with no holy spirirt guiding it.
I can understand how intimidating they can be though, and no one should be a victim of their intimidating behaviours.
Kate xx
but im still in and on the fence.
" remember who owns the fence?".
shunning needs to be tempered.
Venting,
Thanks for telling us you have a problem with some WT policies. Well done for taking a look at this site and having the courage to post.
What is your next move?
Kate xx
is coming and the elder wanted to set up a visit.
it's not like i wasn't warned.
there was a thread that talked about the push to call on inactive ones.. thanks to the heads up here, i knew the motive for the call.. i don't think i even know that eld.
For me, I love being able to tell them how I feel about their actions and policies. It's cathartic for me and who knows I may trigger an elders need to do some independent research. But for you it might be quite different.
From your post, MissFit, you sound like you don't want to speak to the elders, so just ignore them.
Take care
Kate xx
i was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.
i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.
i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.
Black people were banned due to racial prejudice and they couldn't change their skin colour. Adopting an alternative sexual lifestyle is a personal choice. Is it a good comparison?-abba
I agree with cofty, although children don't have sex, therefore they cannot have a sexual orientation, many young boys have feminine qualities and their hormone levels would refelct this. Then as they go through puberty their hormone levels change and their sexual preferences develop.
Many teenagers recognise individuals at school who are gay, both male and female. They get teased at school for being gay before they have even processed it themselves.
Sexual lifestyles are not personal choices and gay people should not be discriminated against.
Kate xx
please check out this you tube video on the "new donation" arrangement update.
its pretty interesting.. see link below.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsodgtx6d58.
ll.
I like Mike and Kim, and I watch their videos.
The point that surprised me the most was that elders actually believe the WT is clearing their debts. I don't understand how elders can fall for this. In reality WT are setting up a new system of everlasting payments.
Why are some JW elders not grasping this? WT don't give money to cong for KHs, they just lend. If a cong cannot make repayments, they dont get the money or KH.
Thanks Mike and Kim for showing us that elders are falling for this scam.
Kate xx
i was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.
i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.
i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.
I just phoned her. She only does wedding invites. She gave me a quote, for some invites and I then asked her about religion and as soon as I said word she slammed the phone down on me. She must have had loads of phonecalls already. LOL!
I may go and pay her a visit, she's not far from me.
Kate xx
i was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.
i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.
i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.
That's the point jws, she turned down business saying it was for religious reasons, but she compromises in other areas. Why is gayness more reason to stand up for beliefs than birthdays, or fornicating couples who are planning a wedding?
I am gonna check out her site
Kate xx