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  Why JWs are a CULT - ULTIMATE POST

  by Black Man in

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  hey all - i wanted to make a post to consolidate all the great info, posts, links about why jws are a cult (the signs, symptoms, everything, etc).. would love to have the definitions and specific examples of how jws fit those definitions/descriptions.. thanks in advance!

  love you guys!!.

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  KateWild

  I would say a cult has a measure of control over it's members. Just like Oub said with the BITE model

  Behaviour control

  Information control

  Thought control

  Emotion control

  Kate xx
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  Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .

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  KateWild

  Every piece of evidence in the video is a fact.-cofty

  Exactly my point. There was a perfect point that I found myself critically thinking the facts. But the video does not promote critical thinking, at the most common sense part of the video to promote it. I checked out the point from a number of sources and determined it was factual, this movement does not promote critical thinking as they claim, they have another more incidious agenda in my view. Don't insult my intelligence I have read the FB page, the agenda isn't hidden.

  Kate xx
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  KateWild

  I examine the evidence and limit my conclusions accordingly.-cofty

  That's just an unmeasureable claim. Evidence is subjective, personal experience can be considered as evidence. Evidence to me is different to evidence to you.

  Kate xx
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  That is just a whinge.- Cofty

  Hahaha is that your best response, you make me laugh cofty. Sometimes personal experience is enough for some people and evidence to them is solid. Plenty of people just believe in everything, and it's no big deal cofty.

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  Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .

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  KateWild

  Well I disagree with them about the fact they promote critical thinking, the 10 minute video had a perfect section to promote two views. See if you can work it out, but instead it presented everything as fact. Critical thinking is about taking in information and reasonably criticising the information and looking at other independent sources to back up what you have learnt.

  This movement presents everything as fact leaving no room for criticism. Like I said I would rather watch evolutionary biology by a source without an agenda.

  Kate xx
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  Memorial 2015

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so the dw and i a re considering a trip to see some extended familly still very much "in.

  " so to avoid any embarassing situations we wanted to check when the memorial date was.

  it turns out the first full moon after the vernal equinox is april 4th, 2015.. here's the good part...it's also the night of a full lunar eclipse.

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  KateWild

  Yes I agree, JWs will no doubt put it down to some supernatural phenomenem. Kate xx
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  KateWild

  Cofty it's not sad that people are abstract thinkers it's a vital part of growing up. You shamelessly quote mined me and did not put the whole of my sentence to make some glib remark.

  Having concrete beliefs about God, evolution and spirits is not essential for happiness. Having concrete views on these things can cause many to push their views on others using teqniques such as intellectual bullying. This is a childish and unhealthy way to communicate.

  Kate xx
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  Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .

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  KateWild

  Cofty,

  Don't under estimate my intellect. You haven't answered my question Cofty.

  These guys have an agenda just like you do. I have been on their FB page and I know what they're about. The video itself is fine just like many Awake magazine's are fine. But the movement have an agenda just like the WT have an agenda. On the video they talk about the work they do and need donations for. So cofty you haven't answered my question what is their "work"?

  We have free state schools all over the UK teaching evolution, why do we need this movement, what is their real agenda?

  Kate xx
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  KateWild

  So many people nowadays are abstract thinkers. They don't need evidence for their beliefs, just a little personal experience. I know someone who doesn't believe in God, but believes in spirits and fortune telling and in evolution.

  In the UK evolution is something taught at school and is not mutually exclusive to belief in God and spirits. Concrete thinkers however, which all JWs are, and some continue to be once they wake up, need to have defined bounderies for their beliefs. Concrete thinking is very childlike and does not give a person the balance that is required as an adult.

  Kate xx
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  This weeks service meeting! More craziness.....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so this weeks service meeting is so full of "crazy".

  a whole 15 min part devoted to trying to indoctrinate everyone on how to "explain our beliefs on 1914".

  then another 15 min part called "a tool to help us explain our beliefs about 1914".

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  KateWild

  Sounds like they're trying to perpetuate the lie. Kate xx