this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
Fair enough Cofty I will read all the OPs since you put so much effort into them.
But I am looking to explain to him about the common ancestor and cantleave also wrote this https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/244307/common-ancestry-thread which I think is worth reading too. I will prioritise as I see fit.
And as I have already said I am thinking about reading the Dawkins book cantleave recommend.
Kate xx
this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
Gargamel
Thanks for your post and welcome to JWN or JWD.
I had a phone conversation with Angus today (cantleave) and he said the same thing about Dawkins earlier books. So I might look into them.
Kate xx
this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
GT,
My son is not having trouble with biology. He just isn't sure of what the school is teaching is true.
Also just because someone is qualified and specialises in one subject it doesn't automatically mean they can grasp everything.
You can't understand why I don't do everything in my power to learn about evolution. How do you know I haven't?
Kate xx
this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
GT,
The following is something Cofty wrote in response as part of the thread. It's completely incomprehensible to a 14 yr old. If you think that's what they learn in the US or the UK you are wrong. But feel free to provide a reference showing me the contrary.
I also expect that you don't understand it either because you didn't contribute in this part of the thread.
Eukaryotes are a result of a chimera of an archaeal host and and prokaryotic symbiont
this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
GT,
You're incredibly condescending and disrespectful. Not having an interest in biology is not a problem in my opinion.
My son is learning osmosis in biology right now and I actually find it interesting and remember what I learnt at school.
I have the courage and strength to admit what I don't grasp and the intelligence and ability to explain the complex things I have knowledge of that I do grasp. Such as chemistry. There is no shame in admitting what you don't know. It's actually very arrogant to expect everyone can learn everything because it puts you in a place of never being able to admit you don't understand something.
My point about the amoeba is that it's in cofty's thread which I don't understand which is not high school biology. So his threads are not suitable for this purpose.
Kate xx
(cnsnews.com) -- dr. michio kaku [1], a theoretical physicist [2] at the city college of new york (cuny) and co-founder of string field theory [3], says theoretical particles known as “primitive semi-radius tachyons” are physical evidence that the universe was created by a higher intelligence.. after analyzing the behavior of these sub-atomic particles - which can move faster than the speed of light and have the ability to “unstick” space and matter – using technology created in 2005, kaku concluded [4] that the universe is a “matrix” governed by laws and principles that could only have been designed by an intelligent being.. “i have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence.
believe me, everything that we call chance today won’t make sense anymore,” kaku said, according [5] to an article published in the geophilosophical association of anthropological and cultural studies.. “to me it is clear that we exist in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”.
“the final solution resolution could be that god is a mathematician,” kaku, author of the future of the mind: the scientific quest to understand, enhance, and empower the mind [6], said in a 2013 big think video [7]posted on youtube.. “the mind of god, we believe, is cosmic music, the music of strings resonating through 11-dimensional hyperspace.”.
I draw the same conclusions when I study physical chemistry and particle physics.....but there is still no concrete evidence. But it's enough for me.
Kate xx
this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
DD, you make a very good point. Thanks for your post. I really appreciate it. Having a good relationship with my son and having happy memories is my priority.
WMF, I don't know what you're definition of trolling is. But I think it people lying and and deliberately upsetting others. That is not me.
Kate xx
this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
Lol Angus.... I have to admit some of the science in "The Greatest Show on Earth" was accurate and easy to comprehend.
But Dawkins is very condescending to believers and I don't want my son to be condescending to people.
I am thinking about it. Okay??
Kate xx
this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
He thought that was a good question. I then asked him if the ark settled in the Middle East how did the kangaroos get to Australia and the the penguins to the North Pole?
He said these were good questions. I then said evolution teaches that environment has a lot to do with how species evolve.
Perhaps that's enough for this week. I really did want to find something that supports what he is being taught in school that isn't bias. But it's no big deal really.
Kate xx
i created this thread so that jwr members can list their old jwr username with their username for whatever site they've moved to.
i apologize if this has already been created somewhere else.. jwr = starrynight.
jwd = starrynight9.
This site is widely known as JWN not JWD. I think that was an old name since before I was a member.
Kate xx
