Posts by KateWild

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Possible Military Coup in Turkey!

by cofty in

if this does turn out to be the case it could have very serious implications.... turkey hovers between western freedom and democracy and an islamic hell.

europe has been bending over backwards to keep turkey on-side and promising it fast-tracked entry to the eu in return for it's cooperation in controlling mass migration from the east.. the situation is unclear at the moment but there are tanks on the streets....

KateWild

I think the US should be launching attacks in Syria because Al Assad is a war criminal that has slaughtered unarmed protesters time and time again and has used chemical weapons against his own people. - codedlogic

If the US launches attacks on Syria, do you not think it's more probable the innocent people you want to protect from an evil president will be killed as the attacks are indiscriminate, especially air strikes, and the president won't be harmed?

I think good men should do something though, like provide a safe place for asylum seekers like they are doing.

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Possible Military Coup in Turkey!

by cofty in

if this does turn out to be the case it could have very serious implications.... turkey hovers between western freedom and democracy and an islamic hell.

europe has been bending over backwards to keep turkey on-side and promising it fast-tracked entry to the eu in return for it's cooperation in controlling mass migration from the east.. the situation is unclear at the moment but there are tanks on the streets....

KateWild

Oh dear this is bad news.

it will seriously curtail the US ability to launch attacks in Syria. - Coded logic

Do you think the US should be launching attacks on Syria? If so why?

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What religion does Steven Hassan practices?

by cyberjesus in

do you know?

i think i saw a video stating he is now jewish?

i am not certain, does anybody know?.

KateWild

I know Steven Hassan was Jewish before he joined the Moonies. But being Jewish doesn't necessarily mean that person believes in God. My parents are Jewish, I was brought up celebrating Jewish holidays which were fun, my dad is agnostic and my mum is atheist, because of her suffering at Hitler's hands. Judaism is more of a culture for them than a religious belief, my dad still goes to synagogue every Saturday, when he prays he probably doesn't think he is praying to God though.

Some people refer to Lawrence Krauss as an Atheist Jewish Scientist.

Good thread, I have met Steven Hassan before and never thought to ask him about his religious beliefs.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

Rather is someone who doesn't believe in a deity because of the lack of evidence of his existence. - cyberjesus
some are atheist because they see no evidence of God. - Kate

I think lack of evidence, and see no evidence means the same thing. Like I said all atheists have different reasons for their position.

Anyway. ThanKS for sharing your conclusions... - cyberjesus

Thanks for being interested enough to read them. Especially as they are just opinions and hold no influence. I really appreciate you doing so.

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A Flashback

by Gwydion in

jw
friends

i feel like a vietnam vet from the movies.

i am safely sitting at a computer and i flip to the sports headlines to see what they have to say about the stanley cup finals and there it is......in big bold letters it says eyes on the prize.

the sound of the kingdom melody sung loudly and terribly off key ring in my head and it won't stop!!!

KateWild

Lol that's a funny story.

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Our Humble Origins

by Coded Logic in

wow, this just blew my mind.

it's an issue i've had with the claims people make about our supposed divine genesis but don't think i've ever seen anyone so precisely hit the nail on the head.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdumiut9m3m.

KateWild

Your one in the OP is quite good, but it's not as funny as this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6-zi25GgVE

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

actually theists have a range of ways of conceiving of how God guides evolution - you are describing a fairly narrow way of how he does so. Deists for example have a different view from pantheist Christians. - Ruby

This is a really good point to highlight we are all individuals. The way we accepted WT was different for all of us the way we woke up was too, and the way we come to conclusions that evolution is guided is different for all of us that have come to this conclusion. It's personal for us.

Also the reasons why people are atheist are different for everyone. some people are atheist because of suffering and others are because of scientific fact, and some are because of both, some are atheist because they see no evidence of God.

Good point Ruby

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

Our conclusions should follow the evidence. Not try and lead the evidence - Codedlogic

Yes I absolutely agree. That's what I do. Do you think Cofty is trying to lead the evidence by making this unsubstantiated claim? I don't but what do you think?

Kenso Soai (21 years ago) - Look I have shown how replicating stuff can end up all left-handed. We can now explain exactly how that happens naturally. - cofty

Soai nowhere is his paper drew this conclusion in these words. But cofty is not bias, he just has a position, and cofty is not twisting facts to lead the evidence. He said he doesn't, so it must be true.

I also agree that filling in scientific gaps with god is illogical. It is much better to apply Occams Razor when there is no definitive answer.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

The interesting bit of the discussion now is the debate between Cofty and Kate as it exposes me to the technicalities of a subject I have little real knowledge of. - K99

Okay fair enough, that's really great that you're reading it all. Thank you very much. I think I can better answer cofty's questions, because he is using my language, and I can respond to his chemical points. I really don't mean to discriminate this way, I didn't realise I was.

To add, I don't mind cofty trying to prove me wrong either. I actually like it. You never know he might even change my views.

Hey Ruby, glad you got back on the thread. You must've got my PM xx

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

Not content to misrepresent Soai once you have posted the same things three times and copy-pasted it into a PM. Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it correct. - cofty

Hahahah lol. Well you kept thinking I was ignoring you, so I wanted to be sure you had the post.

I might have time later to explain why you are wrong. If not, don't worry I WILL get around to it - cofty

Blah blah blah, I've heard this multiple times. To be fair life is more important than showing me how I have misrepresented Soai. But if you think it's important enough to show me exactly what I have said that is misrepresenting Soai, succinctly then I look forward to you correctly representing him. Like you posting why he wrote the paper. You clearly didn't misrepresent him in that respect, he just hold's the same bias, oops I mean position as you. We don't need quotes from his paper, we trust you cofty.