Posts by KateWild

Xant, This is fantastic I am so jealous, my daughter decided not to go to Uni, I really wanted to have this special day with her too, but she is earning a good wage for a 23 year old I can't complain. It's great that ex JWs are getting education.

Was your daughter ever baptised?

Hey Malc, your technical skills are fab, who said only teens are good with technology.

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My son is coming home to me soon. Yey!!!

by KateWild in

my son sent me a wonderful song a month ago on this thread.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5704271907520512/my-wonderful-son.

it's amazing how a bad experience can trigger action.

KateWild

My son sent me a wonderful song a month ago on this thread. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5704271907520512/my-wonderful-son

It's amazing how a bad experience can trigger action. He has had to live under a residence order with his dad since 2011, he opposed this for four years. He has always said he wants to live with me. His dad has always known.

This week things came to a head between him and his dad and he told his dad that he is moving out and coming to live with me when he is 16. Less than 18 months. His dad said "Well I am going to move in with my mum and take you to court". It's so typical of his dad to behave in this spiteful manner.

Happily in the courts in the UK if a child leaves his residence at the age of 16, the judge will not enforce the residence order as they know the child will continue to move out and stay with the non resident parent due to their level of independence at that age. They know it's detrimental to their education at 16 doing GCSEs to have the child fight a court battle.

I have told my son I am here for him no matter what and I support him in whatever he chooses to do even if he changes his mind.

He told me this during present day yesterday. We had a great time, here are some pics for you guys.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

KateWild

Science is founded on a commitment to "Methodological Naturalism". This means that supernatural answers are off-limits. - cofty

This has nothing to do with any bias or personal beliefs of individual scientists. Even christians who are scientists begin with the working assumption that there are unguided, naturalistic causes for the phenomena they investigate. That is what it means to do science as opposed to theology.-cofty

Oh is this true? Really? Are all chemists ethical? Do Pharmaceutical and Industrial chemical companies recruit chemists to develop new products to make money? Have chemists, pharmaceutical and industrial chemical every lied about their results to sell products? As far as research and development in chemistry it's mainly about making new patented product to make money.

I am by no means a chemist, I am a chemical analyst. I analysed finished products. I have not done any research or developed any products, but I have worked in companies where my colleagues were chemists. Their research and development was not founded on "methodological naturalism" and when learning chemistry this phrase doesn't enter in any credible text book.

Credible chemists write papers that are impartial as far as god and atheism is concerned. Their conclusions are about which is the best and most efficient ways to synthesise products for their company. Christian and Atheist scientists who preach are not credible but bias. Dawkins and Krauss are just as bias as the creationist scientists trying to prove God exists. They wrote books called the God delusion and A universe from nothing. These are not peer reviewed science papers. They are the opinions of men. If you want to follow them then do, but know they are bias just like the creationist scientists.

As soon as a scientist does what Kate has done in this thread they cease to do science. It amounts to anintellectually lazy surrender to superstition. Further progress becomes impossible. Even Isaac Newton compromised on methodological naturalism when he was unable to work out why all planets revolve on the same plane around the sun and declared that god-did-it. -cofty

What did I do that was lazy? Can you be specific please. If drawing conclusions based on the facts is lazy or wrong then explain to me succinctly why this is please. I am not declaring god did it, I am applying Occam's Razor.

From the time it was first discovered that some molecules were either "left handed" or "right handed", and that all the amino acids in living things were only of one sort, it has been a matter of considerable mystery why this should be so. - Cofty

Thalidomide caused serious birth defects and chemists worked hard to find out why and then tried to develop a safer synthesised organic homochiral product. It had nothing to do with God or Atheism. It was about preventing mutations.

In 1995 Kenso Soai was able to solve the mystery. He showed that the situation where all the molecules are of just one sort is exactly what happens under natural conditions.-cofty

It has never been about solving the mystery. Saoi has never used that term. You are twisting the facts again to suit your conclusion. Just because you repeat it multiple times it doesn't make it true.

I will post a thread on it in my Evolution is a Fact" series later but here is a very brief summary of the facts. - Cofty

That will not twist the facts because you are not bias and just have a position.

The key to Soai's discovery was the fact that the process that produces the molecules in question are "autocatalytic". -cofty

Twisting facts again. The key to Saoi's discovery was that chemists can now synthesise homochiral organic products more efficiently using autocatayisis in the lab.

I am going to comment on the rest of your post later when I am free. Look out for it Cofty xx

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Possible Military Coup in Turkey!

by cofty in

if this does turn out to be the case it could have very serious implications.... turkey hovers between western freedom and democracy and an islamic hell.

europe has been bending over backwards to keep turkey on-side and promising it fast-tracked entry to the eu in return for it's cooperation in controlling mass migration from the east.. the situation is unclear at the moment but there are tanks on the streets....

KateWild

But let's keep it on topic. Events in Turkey are developing by the minute.-cofty

oops sorry to go off topic on your thread. I am going to bed now. Look forward to your response on my thread when I wake up, so is K99. Goodnight all xx

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Possible Military Coup in Turkey!

by cofty in

if this does turn out to be the case it could have very serious implications.... turkey hovers between western freedom and democracy and an islamic hell.

europe has been bending over backwards to keep turkey on-side and promising it fast-tracked entry to the eu in return for it's cooperation in controlling mass migration from the east.. the situation is unclear at the moment but there are tanks on the streets....

KateWild

I think the US should be launching attacks in Syria because Al Assad is a war criminal that has slaughtered unarmed protesters time and time again and has used chemical weapons against his own people. - codedlogic

If the US launches attacks on Syria, do you not think it's more probable the innocent people you want to protect from an evil president will be killed as the attacks are indiscriminate, especially air strikes, and the president won't be harmed?

I think good men should do something though, like provide a safe place for asylum seekers like they are doing.

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Possible Military Coup in Turkey!

by cofty in

if this does turn out to be the case it could have very serious implications.... turkey hovers between western freedom and democracy and an islamic hell.

europe has been bending over backwards to keep turkey on-side and promising it fast-tracked entry to the eu in return for it's cooperation in controlling mass migration from the east.. the situation is unclear at the moment but there are tanks on the streets....

KateWild

Oh dear this is bad news.

it will seriously curtail the US ability to launch attacks in Syria. - Coded logic

Do you think the US should be launching attacks on Syria? If so why?

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What religion does Steven Hassan practices?

by cyberjesus in

do you know?

i think i saw a video stating he is now jewish?

i am not certain, does anybody know?.

KateWild

I know Steven Hassan was Jewish before he joined the Moonies. But being Jewish doesn't necessarily mean that person believes in God. My parents are Jewish, I was brought up celebrating Jewish holidays which were fun, my dad is agnostic and my mum is atheist, because of her suffering at Hitler's hands. Judaism is more of a culture for them than a religious belief, my dad still goes to synagogue every Saturday, when he prays he probably doesn't think he is praying to God though.

Some people refer to Lawrence Krauss as an Atheist Jewish Scientist.

Good thread, I have met Steven Hassan before and never thought to ask him about his religious beliefs.