Posts by SadElder

9

What if ... a GB member announced he was no longer anointed??

by msecodo in

what if a gb member all-of-a-sudden thought he was no longer anointed??.

what could possibly happen?

?.

SadElder

Ulyss Glass partook at one time then stopped for some reason. Later he started partaking again. Never had the opportunity to ask him why when no one was around. He never was a GB member and I think they had some jealousy towards him for some reason.

152

Is Trump Doing Better Than You Thought As President!

by minimus in

jw
friends

i know that some here detested him while others may have simply accepted the reality of who is president.. do you think he is better than you might have thought as a president?.

SadElder

Haven't fared any better under him. In fact worse. Health insurance increased by 15% thus far, cox cable bill rates raised twice in 3 months, gas up 7% in our area. Local average wages remain unchanged, i have a fixed income so I'm not affected by wages.

All in all I have less money in spendable dollars remaining per month than when he started.

I didn't vote for him nor did I vote for Hillary. I will say that this president has irritated me more in a brief period than any other president. Pence the right wing baptacostle is even more dangerous.

13

Jolene Chu and James Pelechia?

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

20 years ago there was some change at the jw bastion.

some windows were opened when the internet became availble.

jolene chu and james pelechia did historical research for watchtower and published about it.

SadElder

James Pelechia was the dubs public spokesman for a time and then disappeared from view suddenly. Don't know what happened. I have always wondered who he made mad.

Ran across him a few times when on dub projects, always seemed like a nice guy. He was a CO then.

17

Will The Governing Body Be Resigning From Controlling The Corporation When Things Get Worse And Worse?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

will they be making a lot of their gb helpers full fledge gb?

i think as they continue to loose money and members and contributions dry up, that many might be thinking how to get out of this financial mess with some sort of golden parachute, and hand over the reigns to their helpers.. i'm sure with all this bad that is happening to the corporation they would welcome an early retirement with a nice comfy nest egg away from all this bad publicity away from the public eye.

why do they want to keep fighting a losing battle give over their power for a nice comfy retirement.

SadElder

As I understand it none of the ecclesiastical group known as the GB are members of any Watchtower, Watch Tower, or JW corporation. Hence they can claim innocence as to the operation of the "Business" of the org.

13

April 2018 Watchtower

by Listener in

here's a few little gems from the latest watchtower.. 5 many today think that to be truly free, they must be able to do anything and everything they want to do, regardless of the consequences.. this statement is just ridiculous, any normal functioning individual understands the necessity for restrictions, for their own protection and justice as well as for others.

it's a very childish statement with no substantiation and written only to create a perception in jw minds of how worldly people are selfish to the point of being reckless and unrestrained.

they liken adam and eve's sinning which resulted in disaster as being like a pilot not following their designated flight path and make this commenthowever, if the pilot chose to disregard that guidance and fly any route he desired, the result could be disastrous.. this is a very bad analogy because when adam and eve sinned, they had already been forewarned of their disaster to follow.

SadElder

Of course everything they say these days has to weave in something about donating money. But I would be at a loss to explain what they do with the money.

13

The Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses of Namibia and legal problems

by TerryWalstrom in

the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses of namibia has asserted its right to be exempt as an "employer" for purposes of payment to those who work on its behalf, nor are they responsible (they claim) for filing any social security documents as to wages, hours worked, withholding, etc.in 2014, the congregation asked to be de-registered as such.____it didn't go so well.____on the 16 june 2014, authorities replied to the jw's request by confirming that the appellant is considered an employer in terms of the ss act and consequently should be registered with the employees’ compensation fund established by the employees’ compensation act, 1941, as well as having the order register its members with the maternity, sick leave and death benefit established by the ss act___a ping-pong protest and response commenced with multiple requests for clarification by the dubs and protestations and requests for appeal, etc.____authorities decided this matter was best handled by visiting the premises and investigating for themselves what goes on.____after the "visit" by authorities, nothing was offered by the dubs to change any minds.___the jw's continued to whine and protest and appeal, etc.____the authorities examined the congregation's appeal and made the following evaluation:== in the respondent’s listed grounds of opposition, it noted that the appeal filed by the appellant is not proper as it failed to complete the form 11 as contemplated in rule 17(2)(a) of the rules of this court==___jw's protested and appealed the appeal response which didn't appeal to them.___arguments continued until the following finding was released:the labour amendment act stipulates that:18 ‘for the purposes of this act or any other employment law, until the contrary is proved, an individual who works for or renders services to any other person, is presumed to be an employee of that other person, regardless of the form of the contract or the designation of the individual, if any one or more of the following factors is present:(list of factors attached)____blah-blah-blah-blahfinally:the ss act does not provide for de-registration of employers.

accordingly, logic follows that once an employer has been registered under this act, the obligations created in terms of this act ceases to exist only where the employer (who is a natural person) dies or becomes insolvent or is sequestrated or is liquidated or wound up (where an employer is a juristic person).

employees may be ‘de-registered’ under that employer in the event they die or their services have been terminated._______cut to the chase:accordingly, the appellant cannot pick and choose which laws should apply to them and which not.

SadElder

One of the same reasons those moneysuckers started the "Order" and vow of poverty in the US. They wanted to avoid paying Social Security taxes for Bethellites and others.

It makes me angry every time I hear about this stuff. I don't understand why dubs don't see all this subterfuge.

35

Unbelievable KMS example

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

i've been to the kingdom ministry school (for elders) recently and can report that it is mostly the usual mix of cliches and platitudes.

several letters where basically just read through one line at a time.

one point early on though almost made me laugh out loud.

SadElder

I feel left out. Never have I had scantily clad maiden ads appear on the side or anywhere else.

5

Is the Watch Tower giving out loans?

by The Poetry Of Reality in

i originally posted this on the reddit exjw subreddit on 7 feb 2017. i think it's worth revisiting.

http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/35255519-75/land-management-division-recommends-approval-of-gimpl-hill-subdivision.html.csp.

in 2008, they borrowed $1.87 million from the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, the legal arm of the jehovah’s witnesses group, to start the project.

SadElder

I've seen this somewhere before but don't remember where. Maybe here somewhere, but my searching failed me.

It is quite curious.

12

Walked in on my son doing personal study...

by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

.

yeah, he's a weird kid.

but at least he's studious..