Posts by talesin

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Ham had sex with his mother...

by JosephP in

in genesis 9:22, it says, "ham saw his fathers (noah) nakedness.

" over the years i have heard many theories of waht that meant.

leviticus 18:8...20:11...and 20:20-21 says.

talesin

Well, duh! How do you think Adam & Eve had grandchildren?

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Would you convert to a religion for love?

by new hope and happiness in

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friends

i am sure people convery to a religion to find peace and spiritual awakening.

i also bet many convert simply for love.

would you to assist " true love" if it required converting to a particular faith?.

talesin

Nope, I wouldn't prostitute myself for anything. I had thought of converting to Judaism at one point, but the rel'ship fell through. But hey, a nice Jewish boy, a shiksa should BE so lucky! :D

tal

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Do you remember the 15 minute break at the Sun. meeting?

by 3rdgen in

a poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.

break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.

the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.

talesin

As I recall, the 'reason' was so that those worldly TM people who attended the Public Talk could say their goodbyes, as the WT study was mainly for the JWs themselves.

It was also a great opportunity to put a few welts on the rear ends / legs of fidgety kids like me, to ensure that they would SIT STILL during the WT study. Break time sucked for me. ;)

tal

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For fans of older PC games

by glenster in

for fans of older pc games:.

http://glenster1.webs.com/freepcpinballmodsforlo.htm.

it includes carmageddon 1 and 2.. http://www.carmageddon.com/.

glenster, do you remember the first D&D for computers? It was on DOS, and text only - you had to draw your own map. :P I worked for a softwae consultant on the F-18, and we had 22 young engineers, most of them from the RMC (Royal Military College here in Canada),. They were soooo into it! We had one wall of my office papered, and all played the game, charting the 'dungeons'. Mid-80s, and omg now I feel old.

tal

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Watchtower encouraging members to go and preach in Israel

by wannaexit in

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friends

an odd letter was read at last nights' meeting.

it was in regards to a special campaign for next year arranged by the governing body to go and preach in israel.

the call is going out to anybody that speaks hebrew and english.

talesin

OC - two points.

Non-Jews who are tourists, do not have to serve in the Israeli army. They are tourists. EDIT: I don't know if it's true now, but I had a friend who visited Israel in the 80s, and he was an Orthodox Jew who had a visa to stay, I think it was 2 years. As soon as he arrived and was through Customs, he was conscripted! Within 2 weeks, he was shot by a tracer bullet, hospitalized, and returned to Canada. SO, yeah, if you are Jewish, that may be a possibility.

The paper you quoted has some really awesome stuff, but it is about 1st Amendment rights - ie, people serving in the US, "where the need is greater" TM , not missionairies who were/are sent abroad from the USA. We do not want to be like the WTS and quote things 'out of context' in order to make a point.

tal

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Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc

by cofty in

this excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .

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talesin

Heaven - how interesting. I wonder if we had a province-wide curriculum or governed by the school board? I only got through Grade 10 (went back to school later) before my parents took me out of school, but the only "required subject" in NS was English after 1972 - before that, it was English and History. Of course, if you wanted to go on to university, that wouldn't cut the mustard. I was taking Biology, physics, chemistry and of course, my first love,,, Math! :D

xx

tal

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Mental Disorders among JW's

by Blackfalcon98 in

hi everyone, im begining to notice patterns of mental issues in the congregations and among the witnesses as a group.

do you think this is a trend in the entire world or is it exagerated in this organization?.

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talesin

And this, from the U. of Ottawa ...

http://www.med.uottawa.ca/sim/data/Religion_Jehovahs_e.htm

Mental Health Mental illness may be viewed by Witnesses as spiritual weakness, or as a result of evil influences. Witnesses may therefore distrust psychiatric therapy, preferring to treat mental illness within their own group. Nonetheless, an issue may be that the strict nature of the religious practices demanded by members, the focus on imminent cataclysmic disaster, and the shunning of members who have left the faith, may form fertile ground for the development of mental distress

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Mental Disorders among JW's

by Blackfalcon98 in

hi everyone, im begining to notice patterns of mental issues in the congregations and among the witnesses as a group.

do you think this is a trend in the entire world or is it exagerated in this organization?.

.

talesin

I can only access the abstract, but this is interesting.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1174772

The mental health of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Spencer J .

Abstract

The function of religion in human society is complex. The part played by religion in psychiatric disorders is even more obscure. Previous literature and theories are divided into two groups: one school believes that intense religiosity is a symptom-complex indicative of psychiatric disorder, while the opposing view is that religious belief in some way acts as a defence mechanism protecting the individual and his psyche. The present study of 50 Jehovah's Witnesses admitted to the Mental Health Service facilities of Western Australia suggests that members of this section of the community are more likely to be admitted to a psychiatric hospital than the general population. Furthermore, followers of the sect are three times more likely to be diagnosed as suffering from schizophrenia and nearly four times more likely from paranoid schizophrenia than the rest of the population at risk. These findings suggest that being a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses faith may be a risk factor predisposing to a schizophrenic illness. Further studies would be interesting in investigating whether pre-psychotic people are more likely to join the sect than normal people and what part (if any) membership has in bringing about such a breakdown.

PMID:: 1174772; [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Not on JW.org: SIX Texas victims acuse Jehovah's Witness Elder & Circuit Overseer of sexual abuse, and bring lawsuit against Watchtower for cover-up.

by Balaamsass2 in

sexual exploitation and abuse of six young children leads to lawsuit in dallas county.

dallas, oct. 23, 2014 /news.gnom.es/ six young adults, from north texas, all sexually abused as children, filed suit today in dallas, texas state court against three north texas jehovahs witnesses congregations (dallas, plano, and greenville), the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and an elder.. sexually abused when they were ages 4 through 14, the plaintiffs were children of members of the dallas, plano, and greenville jehovahs witnesses congregations.

the suit states that they were repeatedly sexually abused and molested by an elder and an unknown regional circuit overseer, and that they and their families were threatened with discipline and harm if they disclosed the abuse to anyone.

talesin

It's just courtesy to give the url, whatever, I'll find it myself.

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Not on JW.org: SIX Texas victims acuse Jehovah's Witness Elder & Circuit Overseer of sexual abuse, and bring lawsuit against Watchtower for cover-up.

by Balaamsass2 in

sexual exploitation and abuse of six young children leads to lawsuit in dallas county.

dallas, oct. 23, 2014 /news.gnom.es/ six young adults, from north texas, all sexually abused as children, filed suit today in dallas, texas state court against three north texas jehovahs witnesses congregations (dallas, plano, and greenville), the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and an elder.. sexually abused when they were ages 4 through 14, the plaintiffs were children of members of the dallas, plano, and greenville jehovahs witnesses congregations.

the suit states that they were repeatedly sexually abused and molested by an elder and an unknown regional circuit overseer, and that they and their families were threatened with discipline and harm if they disclosed the abuse to anyone.

talesin

Hi, can you provide a link to the news story, please? I want to send it to someone in DFW area. Thanks! I know that he was in at least one of the congos.

tal