Posts by talesin

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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered

by flipper in

jw
friends

in this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.

john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.

please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.

talesin

I was not a John Lennon fan. One of my besties, Steve, called in sick to work the next day. He used to come to our house every weekend, and we'd play cards or Risk, have a few, and he told me that he took the day off because of JL. He was grieving.

It had not occurred to me, how much he was loved. Over the next few months, Steve 'educated' me on John Lennon, the good, the bad and yes, the ugly. It was profoundly moving to me, to learn his story, and changed my life in a way that is hard to define. I guess you could say that my transformation from enforced-JWism to hippie and authentic self, felt compete for the first time. I still had a long way to go with therapy (LOL), but yeah.

So, that's my John Lennon story.

I wish Band on the Run was still on the board, she has some great stories from NYC, and her love of JL.

xx

tal

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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered

by flipper in

jw
friends

in this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.

john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.

please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.

talesin

Anyone who is a fan of John Lennon or the Beatles is very aware of his darker side. He's not Christ, ya know! So he had issues. *shrugs*

Favorites ... two that I relate to, and that last one, well, just because (it's a secret).

Missing you Johnny. PL&H

"Mother! You had me, but I didn't have you."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEnc3RQE2lg

"Say it again. God is a concept, by which we measure our pain."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jknynk5vny8

"The way things are goin', they're gonna crucify me."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgykX1jk3k0

"The dream is over."

Thank you John, for expressing how I feel. Paul shows us joy, you shared our pain.

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Old, Faithful and Forgotten...

by rrb2016 in

had a conversation with my jw mother the other day.

she has been baptized for over 50 years.

i've been out for 30 years, but because both my mother and mother-in-law are jw's i keep up with all things jw.

talesin

It's true. During my recent hospitalization, I got in touch with my father again, and found out what is "really" going on. My mother has dementia, and he is her caregiver 24-7. She hasn't even been diagnosed, but quite sure it is Alzheimers.

In spite of her abuse and such, I feel so bad for her. Her greatest fear was to lose her mental faculties. How ironic and sad. He asked me to call her, saying she cries about me not being around. So I did. She sounds so weak and out of it........ "It's really you, dear? Does your father have your number?" She doesn't remember that she is the one who didn't want me around. This dementia explains a lot (see my older thread re the cray-cray that went on a few months ago).

I feel so bad for them ........... in order to get to one mtg. a week, my father has one of our WORLDLY relatives come and sit with Mother. Where are their brothers and sisters? Hypocrites! My parents have always been the FIRST to help others,. took a whole family into our home to live because they were in need (clueless), fostering a JW kid who had been abused, billeting families for the annual DC held in our city, and on and on. They are not angels, and yes, I grew up with abuse. But in the context of their sick world, they helped a lot of people. And now that they need help, where is #1 son? Where is the JW family? GONE

I feel pity and sorrow for the older ones. It's disgusting.

tal

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If you like dark humour, with an atheist twist, this will make you bust a gut. The Book of Job, by DarkMatter2525

by talesin in

my room mate just introduced me to the darkmatter2525 channel on youtube.

hilarity ensued.

enjoy .

talesin

EdenOne, I'll check that one out for sure.

It was just last week, there was a thread about your least favorite Bible character, and Job was one of mine. Sheer coincidence that my roomie showed me the vid tonight.

t

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Any thought on Business Territory

by Sabin in

i was working one day, had a couple of male customers to serve when this lady walks in & offers me a track on her religion, my answer without thinking " i already know what the bible say's, i'm one of jw's".

she just threw me a dirty look & the two guy's just looked down & said nothing.

i just carried on, served them as nothing had happened.

talesin

I find it a bit shocking. I was a JW in the 70s, and that was not practiced in this region. unless it came in the 80s.

That would be socially unacceptable here in the boonies, and I can't imagine what kind of reception they would get. Probably something akin to, "Are you out of your fookin' mind?!"

: D

tal

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You think the light may have come on in the mind of a few JW's?

by James Mixon in

isis or isil believe they are the key agent of the coming apocalypse.. jw's , we are warning folks of the coming day of jehovah.. isis, their purpose to spread a totalitarian caliphate throughout the world.. jw's "if you are not with us you are against us".. isis, polarize muslims against one another, to incite internal divisions.. jw's shunning..

talesin

We also concluded that those still in have NO INTEGRITY, they do not have any regard for that which is True.

Indeed, Phizzy.

t

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Muslims vs. JWs as friends

by Driving Force in

jw
friends

this is not meant to be a controversial discussion, but just mentioning what has happened to my daughter.. i personally started my fade early this year 2015, it has resulted in my losing all my so called jw friends and the brake-up of my marriage.

when i split up with my wife, she asked our daughter who she would like to live with, my daughter decided to live with me, and also abandoned the cult.. recently my daughter told me that she is very disappointed with the congregation of jehovah's witnesses because she thought she had friends there, but now she has realized that it was all conditional, not a single one of them has even remotely tried to keep contact with my daughter, she is 15, not baptized and never a publisher.. now yesterday she met up with a jehovah's witness friend who is in another congregation.

this friend is also 15, baptized since she was 14, a very dominant elder father, and has virtually no association outside jw circles, and also internet access is banned at home.

talesin

What Nic said ^^^

And don't feel ashamed - you got out, and got your daughter out before she got hitched and kids, etc. and stuck "in" herself.

; )

tal

EDIT: She is 14, and I just had a thought. "Mean girls" are for real, and she should be prepared for high school. Watch "Clueless" together, which is a great adaptation of Jane Austen's "Emma", and maybe a conversation about the vagaries of high school. Just a thought.

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JW Talk

by Alive! in

was sipping my coffee, browsing here and there, and then focussed on reading here regarding arc, picked up some world news on same subject - and wondered if jw org would publish any information on their news site.. then, i flicked to jw talk - anything in their public news forum?

a newish headline 'australia and jehovah's witnesses' or something like that - i entered link - web page error, not found.

nope.

talesin

every answer given is in favor of the Submissions of the Society laywers, and I think that members now, are scared to receive warning points, and to get kicked out by the moderators.

We must keep reporting the facts here, so that JWS who want to know the reality of what is happening will be able to read transcripts, etc.

and you can't experct that they will accept other opinions with open arms...on their forum.

That is correct. Any lies they choose to tell in order to cover up the facts, will be considered Theocratic Warfare (TM).

** pukes **

tal

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If you like dark humour, with an atheist twist, this will make you bust a gut. The Book of Job, by DarkMatter2525

by talesin in

my room mate just introduced me to the darkmatter2525 channel on youtube.

hilarity ensued.

enjoy .

talesin

My room mate just introduced me to the DarkMatter2525 channel on youtube. Hilarity ensued.

ENJOY

WARNING: Utterly irreverent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgZqnsytJI

t :

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The Dead Generation (Monty Python Spoof)

by Scully in

the dead generation.

gbm: "no it isn't".

jw: "yes it is, look at it!

talesin

I'd love to see a JW parody of "Every Sperm is Sacred" ....... any lyricists on board? :D