Not only that, but it would be a hard sell in China. I've made a few new Chinese Canadian friends, and they are not likely to have any wool pulled over their eyes, especially with respect to religion.
tal
i was just thinking today if china opened it doors to wt, and there was the surge of interest as was the the case with the european eastern block countries when communism 1st fell.
what would be wt reaction toward it.
could wt even afford to proselytise in china.
Not only that, but it would be a hard sell in China. I've made a few new Chinese Canadian friends, and they are not likely to have any wool pulled over their eyes, especially with respect to religion.
tal
does anyone know if the jws have very printed a picture of, what might be considered, a nativity scene in any of their literature?
i think it would funny to create a christmas card using their own artwork!
haha!
Jan, I remember that my father celebrated as a child. That side of the family goes back to 1800s. So, I would say "yes".
t
welcome to canada from one immigrant to another !.
calgary is welcoming it's first refugees from syria and iraq so tomorrow i'm going to take all the winter clothing that we have and donate it to a women / children's charity.
it's not much (well, actually, it's a huge pile ... everything from when we first moved over!
i see some members , who have been on this board for many ,many years , who very seldom posted a topic for discussion..i would like to encourage everyone in this situation to re-think there reasons for not starting a subject for discussion.. sometimes after the event , i have thought to myself why did you start that topic ,stupid, however on reading the replies to that said topic , i have learnt a helluva lot more in having done so .in other words i learn a great deal more from the feedback i get from you guys than the question or statement i post.. you might think your question or statement is irrelevant , however to somebody else on this board it may just be the thing they are looking for to help them get through some issue of there own .. so please don`t hold back from posting a subject dear to your heart , or anywhere else .. just saying .
smiddy.
COmments mixed up .......sorry.
I've had similar happen. It's easy to feel silly and redundant. But you are right, Smiddy. It's always worth sharing, you never know what you may learn, or who may read and be helped.
tal
welcome to canada from one immigrant to another !.
calgary is welcoming it's first refugees from syria and iraq so tomorrow i'm going to take all the winter clothing that we have and donate it to a women / children's charity.
it's not much (well, actually, it's a huge pile ... everything from when we first moved over!
Excellent hummus, stuffed grape leaves, think Lebanese food, Mediterranean, olive oil.
YUM
welcome to canada from one immigrant to another !.
calgary is welcoming it's first refugees from syria and iraq so tomorrow i'm going to take all the winter clothing that we have and donate it to a women / children's charity.
it's not much (well, actually, it's a huge pile ... everything from when we first moved over!
I join with Simon saying, Welcome, Syrian friends! From Nova Scotia, where some of you may arrive :)
Refugees should have arrived in TO last night.
There's a central drop-off and online lists for donations. We will be welcoming about 1,500 refugees to the province.
I'm going to ask my Syrian friends if they know anyone, once the people are arriving. We have a Syrian resto here already, that's my friend's place. I have some winter wear ready, hoping it's before Xmas.
These are exciting times, and I'm happy to be part of something positive. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister, too.
xx
tal
i really don't know anything about what hackers do.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hacker_(computer_security).
in the computer security context, a hacker is someone who seeks and exploits weaknesses in a computer system or computer network.
hackers may be motivated by a multitude of reasons, such as profit, protest, challenge or enjoyment.
There are "Anonymous" vids on youtube claiming that the JWS are a target I was reading files this morning, that are accredited to Anonymous; files of JW cases being discussed. I don't know if it's for real.
I don't belong to exJW facebook groups that discuss JW or are 'activists', but friends do. It was an open group, so saw the posting on my friends' feed to the right of my screen, and clicked the file. Quite realistic.
born to be conned - new york times.
when people want to believe what they want to believe, david sullivan, a professional cult infiltrator, told the commonwealth club of california, a public affairs forum, in july 2010, they are very hard to dissuade.
and the reason it happens (and often happens to the most intelligent people) is that human nature is wired toward creating meaning out of meaninglessness..
It must be my Vulcan side that's never been conned, but I'm not buyin' it.
tal
what do they contribute to humanity?
what do they contribute to any part of society?.
why are people paying for a scam?.
They do NOTHING.
Just for the hell of it, I looked up Billy Graham.org, to see what that extremely wealthy and powerful 'ministry' does to help the suffering. Guess what? Nothing. He has ministries, and chaplains.
So the JWS aren't the only ones!
Religion is a snare and a racket. Hmm, I wonder who said that? Oh yeah, that old drunken swine, Rutherford.
tal
i've found it interesting that- imho- most of the politically vocal ex-jw's at this website seem to lean left.
i'm personally pretty centered- right on some issues, left on others, but overall have a pretty cynical view of all political/religious leaders.
i find it somewhat ironic that people who leave such a dogmatic group like the witnesses become so politically dogmatic.
Looking back over the years, I'd say it's a sign of current USA politics. During the GWB administration, there were quite a few vocal right-wing posters. Remember, that was during 9/11 aftermath, and the subsequent invasion of Iraq, - emotions were running high, and the American people wanted vengeance.
The flame wars and heated debates recently, tend to be between deists and avowed atheists. Political wrangling has died down (except for racial and gun-control issues, which are always hot topics). It will be interesting to see if things heat up in 2016. For some entertaining reading, go back to the 2004 pre-election threads. Oh yeah, lots of right and left vehement discussions. : D
As for the JWS, to me, they are conservatives. They are pro-rules (laws), anti-choice, pro-capitalism and harsh punishments for crime, including the death penalty, anti-gay/lesbian, anti-marijuana, anti-peace movement, hate Rock and Roll, etc. Don't let their phoney 'pacifist' stance on war convince you they are liberal thinkers. That is just another form of controlling the 'sheeple'.
Ponder that for a while - I used to think all exJWs were like me, ie. a flaming, bleeding-heart liberal (as I've been called, here, years ago. lol!), but no. Many are very conservative, "Tories", we call 'em. In the USA they are called the GOP or Republicans ...... oh and also the Libertarians are right-wing as well. (Not that there's anything wrong with that! hehehe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3VphK9AMk
That's my take on it.
t