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  Child Broadcast Star is Going Home to Die.

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the february broadcast has an item which in my view exploits a young very poorly girl.

  it seems that the girl is quite a character and her faith seems to be strong.

  she was baptised as a pre-pubescent innocent girl and is purported to be a regular pioneer at age 13. now read what her local paper says :-.

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  I'm sure much of the $200,000+ in donations came from r&f members, who would be happy to contribute to the death cult known as the WTS.
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  Next steps for the Austrailian Royal Commission

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  since the watchtowers' lawyers have (a) failed to make any recommendations to the arc that would bring the watchtower up to date with "best practices and procedures" (b) have failed to submit a proposal for victim restitution (c) have failed to secure funding for a redress scheme and (d) have completely dismissed all the arcs' findings - what's the royal commission's next course of action?.

  i see two possibilities:.

  ) negotiate a settlement with the watchtower.

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  If my understanding of the Australian sensibility is correct, they may be in big trouble. I could see that bold and straight-forward spirit that I admire, helping many to come forward. Think positive thoughts.
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  WBTS goes to Court of Appeal (Charity Commission investigation)

  by Mephis in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  after a number of high profile cases where both children and survivors clearly weren't adequately protected, the charity commission here in the uk launched an investigation into the wbts as a whole here in britain.

  the main concerns are around the child safeguarding policies being inadequate.

  wbts have fought every step of the way so far.. wbts have been to the high court, who told them to complain to the proper tribunal.. wbts have been to the proper tribunal, who told them that too darn right there were suitable grounds for the charity commission to want to investigate their inability to protect children.. and now the wbts have gone back to the court of appeal to demand that the charity commission inquiry be halted.. i hope the court of appeal tells them that, yes, they too need to have proper safeguarding measures for children and to get on with co-operating with the investigation.. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-defends-its-investigation-into-jehovahs-witness-charity-in-the-court-of-appeal.

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  Df brother in shock I spoke to him at kh

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was vis it in a kh last night and i just thought i try something new.

  when amen was said i bolted out hall low and behold there was anot her poor soul just ahead of me so since he did not know me but i knew he was df i said a greeting to him he seemed greatabsolutely shocked and horrified thst i was speaking to him he acknowledged my greeting and scurried off in t i the night it was a great moment for humankind..

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  • Good question who are they supposed to talk to? Worldly people? It is evil.

  • They will have to wait longer if the elders find out they are associating with "worldlies". They are supposed to have NO friends, NO life. It's like being in the cult, only when you are not DF you pretend to be HAPPY, you have PHONY friends, and they all have plastic smiles, too.
  • The DF person is to come in at the last moment, and feel SHAMED. It's all about the shaming.
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  WBTS goes to Court of Appeal (Charity Commission investigation)

  by Mephis in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  after a number of high profile cases where both children and survivors clearly weren't adequately protected, the charity commission here in the uk launched an investigation into the wbts as a whole here in britain.

  the main concerns are around the child safeguarding policies being inadequate.

  wbts have fought every step of the way so far.. wbts have been to the high court, who told them to complain to the proper tribunal.. wbts have been to the proper tribunal, who told them that too darn right there were suitable grounds for the charity commission to want to investigate their inability to protect children.. and now the wbts have gone back to the court of appeal to demand that the charity commission inquiry be halted.. i hope the court of appeal tells them that, yes, they too need to have proper safeguarding measures for children and to get on with co-operating with the investigation.. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-defends-its-investigation-into-jehovahs-witness-charity-in-the-court-of-appeal.

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  Question: I seem to remember a Kingdom song that said, "we must watch how we talk,
  watch how we walk" something like that. True????

  Indeed. That clearly rings a bell, and I recognize the lines (chorus, I think). Thank the Goddess that the melody is NOT in my head. No JWS ear worms, thank-you-very-much! : P
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  Mentally challenged DF

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there was a df of a mentally challenged young man he sexually assaulted a young girl.. in jesus day people were possessed by demons but we know today they had mental issues.. do you know of any cases where a mentally challenged person was df.. the case that i mention the young man was 18-20 years old and it was a case where he was.

  functional, school, friends and was baptized.

  i knew the family and if you didn't know he was a. typical teenager.. my question, if a mentally challenged person is able to answer the questions to qualify to be.

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  If a person is not competent to enter into a binding legal contract, what miracle of Jehovah's Magic spirit permits them to dedicate their life to the WTB&TS?

  Ayup, just like children. Under 18? Sorry. no legally binding contracts for you, unless you are 'emancipated'. Oh, but a *religious* contract - well, we don't interfere with religions, so deal with it.

  I wonder if there is any case (in the USA) for suing them on the basis of 'alienation of affection'? Hmm.

  As I learn and read more and more about JWS, I realize that my decision to leave it, was the only thing I could live with. What a sick and twisted bunch of self-righteous, pedo-protecting scumbags they are.
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  Next steps for the Austrailian Royal Commission

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  since the watchtowers' lawyers have (a) failed to make any recommendations to the arc that would bring the watchtower up to date with "best practices and procedures" (b) have failed to submit a proposal for victim restitution (c) have failed to secure funding for a redress scheme and (d) have completely dismissed all the arcs' findings - what's the royal commission's next course of action?.

  i see two possibilities:.

  ) negotiate a settlement with the watchtower.

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  In Canada, a Royal Commission is one 'type' of Public Inquiry. Similar to Australia's RC, they can make findings and recommendations, but not prosecute.
  
  I remember one Public Inquiry that yielded far-reaching results, and that would be the disbanding of the Canadian Airborne Regiment (of course, it still operates, under CSIS, in the shadows). This was because of abuses to prisoners (I believe they involved murder) and really disgusting and abusive hazing rituals that were practiced by the units (eg, being anally raped with a cigar by your CO as part of the hazing). It was a shameful chapter in Canada's military history.

  • Commission of Inquiry into the Deployment of Canadian Forces in Somalia (1994-97): This commission investigated the events surrounding the torture and murder of a black prisoner by Canadian peacekeepers in Somalia. The Canadian Airborne Regiment, which was stationed in Somalia, was disbanded during the course of this public inquiry.

  • For more information on the Commission of Inquiry into the Deployment of Canadian Forces in Somalia: Canadian Department of Defence – Final Report of the Commission

  The WT lawyer has already been reported for misconduct. Perhaps there will be recommendations from the ARC that lawmakers and/or law enforcement will find actionable. That would be most excellent! xx tal

  Sheperdless - excellent post, and great information, thanks. That the victims could be helped so greatly by the ARC report, is a good thing. I wonder if this could be helpful in establishing a class action suit? Oh, my! How many would one need to file such a suit in AU?
  
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  Just heard from someone who was just in Cozumel that there are 9 Kingdom Halls in about a mile zone.

  by Butyoucanneverleave in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's because of their tremendous growth.

  can anyone verify?

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  steve244 minutes agoJW.org lists 6 different addresses for kingdom halls.

  Good stuff - I never think to look there. Went there to read the "diseased apostates" article, and it made me nauseous (that's quite the thing, after so many years, hey, steve2?). So I've mentally blocked that as a search option. True true. : P I was reading travel forums, and such.

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  From Cozumel My Cozumel Forums (and oops! 34 members, not 44) :

  (my grandfather was the PO of a rural KH that was in someone's home - less than 20 in the congo ... just a thought)

  You are welcome at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses on Transversal and 125. We have a small group of 34 and would love to see you .
  Sunday at 12 and Wednesday at 7pm :

  This link shows a pic of the Hall with five congos ... big sign. Beautiful building, too.

  Visiting Cozumel, Mexico, we were so excited to see the Kingdom Hall. They have 5 congregations (3 Spanish, 1 English, and 1 Maya). It is really encouraging to see the different varieties of Kingdom Halls that are built in different, yet unique, structures.

  
  http://exploregram.com/visiting-cozumel-mexico-we-were-so-excited-to-see-the-kingdom-hall/
  
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  Just heard from someone who was just in Cozumel that there are 9 Kingdom Halls in about a mile zone.

  by Butyoucanneverleave in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's because of their tremendous growth.

  can anyone verify?

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  I've found three Halls in Cozumel - one of them has 5 congos (3 Spanish, 2 English) - perhaps there are 9 congregations ,,, not Halls. Sounds more reasonable to me. xx tal

  On a travel forum, one of the Cozumel people said "We have 44 publishers in our congregation", so if that is their number, it's not very large (at least, not the English-speaking ones).
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  Control - Whose worse, the JWs or the traditional churches?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we once experienced, the "you'll die at armegeddon," fear instilled into us as jw's.. was that worse or better than the fear of eternal torment instilled by more conventional religions?.

  john spong gives his view.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkah3hemv3m.

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  John Shelby Spong is an honest and intelligent man.

  You know him, Cofty? Is that why you think he is intelligent, in spite of his belief in GOD and an afterlife?
  
  WOW! You often write as if all on this DB who believe have zero reasoning skills, and/or are intellectually dishonest. so he must be quite the man, to have earned such respect from you, of all people, for his intelligence.