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  Disfellowshipped for celebrating Xmas?

  by Theburstbubble in

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  i could really do with some advice on what's acceptable when you leave.

  we have left of our own accord about 6 months ago.

  we didn't celebrate xmas this year but have just celebrated my daughters birthday.. a friend of mine who is still a witness told me that an elder had approached her and asked if we had celebrated xmas and that if we did it was a df offence as is classed as apostasy!

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  Landy

  Many of these things are decided, as already pointed out, by the local BOE. I have not set foot in a KH since the day my mother threw me out at age 18 (because I didn't believe it, and refused to attend meetings - I had done nothing 'wrong'). For a couple of years, they tried to get me to go to the Memorial, and the ASSemblies, and I refused. Then, they sicced the elders on me.

  This was years ago. It's all relative to where you live, which congo you're in, and who you are. You'll see all different versions of how people were left alone, or hunted down. It's Looney-Tunes! : )
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  Disfellowshipped for celebrating Xmas?

  by Theburstbubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i could really do with some advice on what's acceptable when you leave.

  we have left of our own accord about 6 months ago.

  we didn't celebrate xmas this year but have just celebrated my daughters birthday.. a friend of mine who is still a witness told me that an elder had approached her and asked if we had celebrated xmas and that if we did it was a df offence as is classed as apostasy!

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  DOC

  Yes, I realize that. When I was first on the DB, it was very exciting that I had evidence. The UN thing was news to me as well. I was like, WOW!

  We had an agreement - they would not shun me, as long as I didn't bring up the religion. That was for years. But now, now I had evidence!

  So, I tried. Once. That was over 10 years ago. You have to try at least once. : )
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  Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking this for a while.

  even before the arc scandal.

  it seems no matter what, the org.

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  Never mind. I think it's off-topic, and just my opinion. Take care.
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  Disfellowshipped for celebrating Xmas?

  by Theburstbubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i could really do with some advice on what's acceptable when you leave.

  we have left of our own accord about 6 months ago.

  we didn't celebrate xmas this year but have just celebrated my daughters birthday.. a friend of mine who is still a witness told me that an elder had approached her and asked if we had celebrated xmas and that if we did it was a df offence as is classed as apostasy!

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  talesin

  They will just say it is not a "real" recording or transcript. It's photo shopped or fake. That's what was said here by a local Eldub.

  DOC - precisely.

  This was the response when I presented the facts (and the web locations) to my parents about the UN library card. One of their best elder friends owned a PC business; one of their close family members is a programmer, and they had easy access to the facts, but no dice. It was all a lie, and they wouldn't even bother checking, because it could not be true.

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  Q. Why is showing facts to a Jehovah's Witness like banging your head against a brick wall?
  
  A. Because it feels so good when you stop.

  mwah haha!

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  smiddy - No, I am breaking up with you. : P
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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

  1. watchtower
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  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  I needed that so much. Haven't laughed this hard in months. Thanks, you two! t
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  Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking this for a while.

  even before the arc scandal.

  it seems no matter what, the org.

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  How you want to get disfellowshipped

  by ivanatahan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was inspired by an amazing topic i read earlier, particularly about what some people did when their shunning was announced.

  how would you guys celebrate such an honor?

  or, if you already have a great story to share about what you did during your announcement, please share!.

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  Ivanatahan - blasting Freddie Mercury singing "I Want to Break Free" on my 8-track as I peel out of the parking lot.
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  How you want to get disfellowshipped

  by ivanatahan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was inspired by an amazing topic i read earlier, particularly about what some people did when their shunning was announced.

  how would you guys celebrate such an honor?

  or, if you already have a great story to share about what you did during your announcement, please share!.

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  JW GoneBad Good one!

  La petite mort is what the French call orgasm - "the little death". : ))

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  I wish I would have been more (hmmm, how to say it ... oh, yes) BRAZEN when I was younger. I would have dressed 'to the nines', stood up and said "NO. I disfellowshipped YOU years ago - too late, suckers!"

  (I have 'hand' a la George Costanza)

  
  (never said fukk until I was in my late 20s - cussing was considered declasse in my family, and it was real work, learning to swear when it's appropriate, so 'suckers': P )
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  A Separate Identity: Organizational Identity Among Readers of Zion’s Watch ... By B. W. Schulz

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
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  enter:.

  https://books.google.com/books.

  a separate identity: organizational identity among readers of zion’s watch .

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  John Nelson Darby (The Exclusive Brethren) did extensive preaching in New England and Canada during his later years. The language and belief system of that cult is so much like the JWS. is there evidence that Russell and he were connected, or that Russell borrowed some of his teachings?
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  Control - Whose worse, the JWs or the traditional churches?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we once experienced, the "you'll die at armegeddon," fear instilled into us as jw's.. was that worse or better than the fear of eternal torment instilled by more conventional religions?.

  john spong gives his view.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkah3hemv3m.

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  Your words (if indicating hate) confirm their faith, so when ex-witnesses talk 'hate' they (JWs), recalling the words of Jesus, shut down their thought processes and recall only what Jesus said - been there, done that !!!!

  ExJWs are not 'the world'.

  We are survivors who were abused by the JWS.
  
  Do I hate the people who raped me as a chlid? DAMN STRAIGHT That's called 'normal'.

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  Having been also spiritually raped, and physically abused, by the JW cult, it is perfectly natural that I hate it.

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  Do I tell JWS that? Why would I bother? I choose to vent here.

  
  

  (haha, proofreading this and oops - did I split my infinitive? The horror!)