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  2016-2-17-Destroy Previous S-77 Forms!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these numbers and letters:--gbr659967--are the only identifying markson this boe..the "informant" who sent it said:.

  "this letter came through the congregation inbox and so hasn't got theusual identifying information.

  the name of the file is probably thebest way to identify it.

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  Sugar, understood, and thanks for the reply. I thought you may be new to the issue, and wanted to clarify the possible importance of this particular document.

  In the broader sense, there may be a lot of seemingly unimportant documents, and/or debate about the history of the JWS. These things have meaning because it is 'our' history, and the WTBTS has rewritten the facts. There is a group of people that works with Atlantis! to ensure that these documents are not lost forever. Younger people who are finding their way out of the cult often have no knowledge of how the religion started, and what happened in the past.

  You are so right about the pompous self-importance of the JW organization. Glad to have you here - it's always good to see people who have never been JWS. One step in getting rid of the cult, is public awareness. Many people think they are harmless. Take care.
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  The Miracle Wheat Episode: Summary

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  this "miracle wheat" article is getting too long!

  hahaha.

  but here is the short description (without the proofs and many newspaper and wt articles in full, which will come in the pdf version):.

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  talesin

  ILoveTTAT2 - haha, so I guess they really were birds of a feather, Barnum & Russell. : )
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  my first painting after my cataract oeration

  by nugget in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  have only just been able to paint again after a cataract operation in september.

  i had complications which meant my short sight has been compromised but following some surgery the fluid buildup seems to have cleared and i have started painting again.

  this is a larger rendition of an earlier piece, such a relief to be ble to see the paper again..

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  That's quite amazing. And painstaking. It's not a technique I knew of (ie, the coloured inks/washes). Like Esse quam says, makes the cut here. : ))

  Thanks for sharing such beautiful work.
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  Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

  by Luther bertrand in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

  i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

  i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

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  I rest my case.
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  my first painting after my cataract oeration

  by nugget in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  have only just been able to paint again after a cataract operation in september.

  i had complications which meant my short sight has been compromised but following some surgery the fluid buildup seems to have cleared and i have started painting again.

  this is a larger rendition of an earlier piece, such a relief to be ble to see the paper again..

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  That is great news. I can't imagine, this must have been so hard on you.

  What beautiful work. Wish I could see it in person.

  W/C and acrylic? Or straight watercolour?
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  Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

  by Luther bertrand in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

  i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

  i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

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  I noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer

  The last time I introduced feminist thought on a thread, one person said "I feel the word patriarchy coming on." You are a man, though (possible an elder or exelder?) , so I am sure the misogynists will not attack you for using the word "partriarchal".

  Feminist talk is not welcomed here. If it's mentioned, there are one or two prolific members that I guess, feel the need to be rude and demeaning (showing their ignorance). It's great that you are going to undertake this project - it is sorely needed. I'm sure there are other feminist thinkers reading the topic, and hope one of them will be able to work with you.

  Good stuff! Look forward to seeing the results. xx
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  Notable changes of the JWs org, in the last five years or so

  by glenster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been updating the links at my web site and i'm working on the gtjbrooklyn pages now.

  what would you say are the several biggest changesin the jws organization/rules in the last five years or so?

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  ''an Organization that will throw you away and ostracize you forever if you should ever disagree with them''
  A hallmark sign of a cult.

  repetition for emphasis
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  This is Just getting Ridiculous and out of hand with the Borg

  by MrsR-Awaken in

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  2. friends

  saw this on reddit it was posted by user morgan_sparlock .

  to me honestly this would of been prohibited 10 years ago, but now every dub is obsessed with this website, it's everywhere even a damn iphone cover... ooh they don't approve of idolatry ooh no they don't accept cross veneration thats bullshit to me!!!

  its getting to a point that they are venerating this website (company logo) it's their version of the cross.

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  Reminds me of a local JW here who had the no blood sign printed on the front window of his car.
  When he drove arround the corner a big no blood sign was aproaching you. )):

  Gorby, haha, that's cray-cray. Maybe he thought that Jah would protect him from having an accident.

  I can't believe this latest move in 'branding'. While surfing JWTalk, I noticed there were a lot of older JWS who are NOT happy with this.
  

  It's been so many years since I left, it's astonishing to see this happen. The JW Org. is, assuredly, brazen! : P
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  What's a word that describes the way Witnesses behave as a group?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  2. friends

  i can't recall the word that describes a group that keeps to itself like the witnesses do.

  i thought it was "insular" but i don't think that's the one i'm looking for after reading the definition.

  i remember an elder using the word "clannish" and that has the proper definition but it reminds me of a group of elves.

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  In think "insular" works really well. just my 2 : )
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  2016-2-17-Destroy Previous S-77 Forms!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these numbers and letters:--gbr659967--are the only identifying markson this boe..the "informant" who sent it said:.

  "this letter came through the congregation inbox and so hasn't got theusual identifying information.

  the name of the file is probably thebest way to identify it.

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  Sugar

  They are under investigation in Great Britain re child sexual abuse. A judge has ordered that no documents should be destroyed.

  Judicial committees of JWS, have been covering up pedophiles' acts for a LONG time. This thread is about the Society instructing them to destroy forms and/or documents relating to such abuse.

  YES, they have an over-inflated sense of their importance in relative terms. In this instance, the destruction of these forms could influence findings of the investigation.

  Sure, it means nothing to you. But to JWS, it is very important - maybe 20 or 30 thousand kids being molested and the perpetrators go free is not important on the larger scale.

  These are our sisters, mothers, brothers, nephews, etc. We want this secretive, legalistic organization's cover-ups STOPPED.

  That is why we pick at anything that could affect hearings like this. Information gets sent to enquiries and judges by people like us - anything to help this cause. xx