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When your oldest friend is a JW and they die

by Terry in

in my book, i wept by the rivers of babylon, i described the process of having a friend, johnny santa cruz, use our friendship as a platform for converting me to a jehovah's witness.. that friendship cost me decades of my life in bondage to a cult.. the friendship was real and johnny and i bonded for life.

but, the religion eventually turned him into a stone silence toward me--his oldest friend.

now he is dead and the imaginary reunion and meeting of the minds is no longer a possibility.. this makes his passing a double tragedy.. his memories were my memories.

talesin

Terry,

I wrote you a little poem and it was on your original thread. I'll put a link to that thread at the bottom of my post; it may help you access. There are three threads, and yeah, the board has a few glitches with some of us older posters.

I hope you are doing okay, and have lots of support 'in person'. Thinking of you. xx tal

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AFF
I missed you, friend,
For many years.
Now that your're gone,
Can't stop the tears.
A friend forever.

~ Jenn

xo

Link to original thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6542439833665536/my-best-friend-active-jw-has-just-died

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Patty Duke

by glenster in

anna marie "patty" duke (december 14, 1946 – march 29, 2016) she won an academy award for best supporting actress at 16 for her role in"the miracle worker," starred in the sitcom "the patty duke show," etc.

she wasdiagnosed with bipolar disorder in 1982 after which she had devoted much of hertime to educating the public on mental health issues such as with twobooks--"call me anna" and "brilliant madness: living with manic depressive ill-ness.

" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/patty_duke

talesin

I remember seeing her in the Miracle Worker - both times. Her 'coming out' about living with bi-polar dis ease was a big deal - she was one of the first people to put a face on this destructive illness, RIP xx

What would they say?

by talesin in

jw
friends

when we are free!

it's been a life well-lived, away from the wts.. share your triumphs, your dreams.

think of the possibilities, if you were free.

talesin

What would they say? What could they say?

When we are FREE!

It's been a life well-lived, away from the WTS.

Share your triumphs, your dreams.

Think of the possibilities, if you were FREE.

~ Lady Blue

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d93Y1rJI6s8

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My "best" friend (active JW) has just died

by Terry in

jw
friends

johnny santa cruz and i met around 1959 at a movie theater in fort worth, texas.. the purpose of that meeting was to create a fanclub for horror movie director william castle.

a week or so later, johnny stopped me as i was walking home from elementary school.. "hey--i think i know you.

weren't you at the william castle fanclub thing?".

talesin

AFF
I missed you, friend,
For many years.
Now that your're gone,
Can't stop the tears.
A friend forever.

~ Jenn

xo

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My "best" friend (active JW) has just died

by Terry in

jw
friends

johnny santa cruz and i met around 1959 at a movie theater in fort worth, texas.. the purpose of that meeting was to create a fanclub for horror movie director william castle.

a week or so later, johnny stopped me as i was walking home from elementary school.. "hey--i think i know you.

weren't you at the william castle fanclub thing?".

talesin

Two friend sharpen each other.
A true friend tells you how it is and you have to take your lumps. Casual friends will tell you what you want to hear.
All this dies when the friend dies.

Dear Terry,

It can be especially hard when a close friend dies, and we have been missing them already, for a long time.

My deepest condolences to you. (((Terry)))

tal

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JW marriages: “They” looked good on paper.

by Londo111 in

i applaud anyone, male or female, who overcomes shallowness and looks at a person’s deeper qualities, especially in regard dating and marriage.

the movie and fashion industry does much to institute shallowness to the point that, in my opinion, it promotes outright discrimination and judgmentalism even as they give lip service to tolerance..

on the other hand, among jehovah’s witnesses, there seem to be a preponderance of incompatible marriages.

talesin

To the OP, re "JW marriages" and my experience (so happy that I never married JW).

My parents tried to arrange at least three marriages when I was 16-17 years old. One was with a local pioneer, and I actually boarded with his family. I was, like "What? He is so ugly!" (sorry, I was 16!). And he was like a brother to me, I lived with them, for cat's sake!

The second was a nice guy, he was the cousin of a Lebanese elder, and a new immigrant. They were 'old style', and when we visited for dinner, the wife ate after serving us. The dinner was apropos of introducing me to Mahmoud, the nephew. A totally nice guy, age-appropriate, but are you f**king kidding me?

The third, and to my eternal disgust (now that I'm 50-ish myself), was a 50YO elder from NYC (bear in mind, I was SEVENTEEN, yes, one-seven, 17!). We were at a wedding, and my parents pushed him on me, to dance. He was sweating heavily ... gripping me (not inappropriately) tightly, and I felt like I was suffocating, let alone the fact that he was old enough to be my father ++.

So yeah, the JW way of choosing a 'marriage mate' (f*ck, I hate that term - PARTNER - do you hear me, WT?) is dysfunctional to the max.

GT, I am marking to read your tale later. Hope you are well, xx. : )

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Are you ready for armageddon?

by atomant in

just imagine the panic.disbelief.oh my god they were right.then you pee in your pants.what will l do?the plea for forgiveness.please let me through.l promise l''ll change.l didn;t mean what l said on that jw.com site.l was jokin.then you wake up it was only a dream.disbelief turns to relief.

but it could happen..

talesin

which Christian sects interpretation, if any, would be correct? And if the JW's are wrong and they are actually on the wrong side of God's teachings, would they then be destroyed at armageddon?

a) There are so many sects, like (or unlike) the JWS, that would be an huge task to study, but it's an interesting question.

b) It would depend on the teachings. If the cult with the 'correct' teaching (doctrine) believed the JWS would survive, they would. If the cult or sect with the 'correct' doctrines believed they would be destroyed, they would be destroyed.

It's all subjective. xx

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Are you ready for armageddon?

by atomant in

just imagine the panic.disbelief.oh my god they were right.then you pee in your pants.what will l do?the plea for forgiveness.please let me through.l promise l''ll change.l didn;t mean what l said on that jw.com site.l was jokin.then you wake up it was only a dream.disbelief turns to relief.

but it could happen..

talesin

Just prior to his 90th birthday Churchill said,
"I am well prepared to meet my maker. Whether he is prepared for the ordeal of meeting me is another matter."

Yes, G-d. Watch out for that old woman with a big STICK. As my father would say "I have a bone to pick with you."

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Jehovah’s Witnesses are Taught to Lie but to then Lie about Lying

by Terry in

jehovah’s witnesses are taught to lie but to then lie about lying.

first off, let’s define what it means to tell a lie.

i prefer the definition offered by aristotle way back in 4th century b.c.e.

talesin

That's a good analysis of a JWS mindset, and how the blogger interprets "Theocratic Warfare" (TM). His twisted reasoning could provide 'justification' in the mind of a JW. The blogger is so good, that I just threw up a little bit in my mouth, reading it. I wonder if he is an elder and/or widely read by other JWS? Scary.

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Awww, you "love and miss us"? Really? Then why ignore us?

by stuckinarut2 in

so we received the obligatory "shoved under the door" memorial invitation and "return to jehovah" brochure the other week.

it also had a hand written note from two elders saying "we love and miss you" etc.... so why then when one of them saw us at the grocery store, did he pretend to not see us and then ignore and quickly walk away?.

the sincerity is wonderful..... dont get me wrong, we dont want any attention from them, but it's an interesting observation anyway.....

talesin

For me, that expression was 'the last straw' in having family ties. Said at my grandfather's visitation at the funeral home, and I was in grief and so put off by the phoniness of it all. I replied "Oh, really? My number is in the book."

That was the last time I saw most of my rellies. And good riddance. xx