Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

by AndersonsInfo in

http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

stephanie fessler v watch tower.

stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

talesin

If John Redwood wants to report on the case every day surely that is a good thing. Better than not. I don't see where shes not been transparent.

In my little world, we need to have credibility. Do you know who John Redwood is/was? Obviously not. The use of John Redwood for a pseudonym is inflammatory, at the least.

There IS no John Redwood reporting. Are you getting it? YET?

Seriously. *eye roll*

FYI, from Wiki, and also FYI , there is no "John Redwood" in the exJW movement, such as it is.

John Alan Redwood (born 15 June 1951) is a British Conservative Party politician and Member of Parliament (MP) for Wokingham in the county of Berkshire. He was formerly Secretary of State for Wales in Prime Minister John Major's Cabinet and was an unsuccessful challenger for the leadership of the Conservative Party in 1995. He is currently Co-Chairman of the Conservative Party's Policy Review Group on Economic Competitiveness. He is employed by N M Rothschild & Sons.

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Was Ray Franz Playing The Long Game?

by rory-ks in

jw
friends

i'm just making my way through crisis of conscience for the second time and once again i am struck by the presentation of such detailed records.

letters are shown in full - copies of letters from the branch, and to the branch.

reports are quoted vebatim.

To me, Ray Franz seemed to be genuine, and as an uneducated man, used his natural logic. He saw the corruption; he saw the crazy - in his own relative. The book, CofC, is dry and poorly written, but shows an earnest man's attempt (and he succeeds) to expose the fraud of an organization that he once believed in.

I don't feel he was playing any game; he was more of a naif, and just telling the truth as he saw it. He did what he felt was right, that's all.

x tal

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Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

by AndersonsInfo in

http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

stephanie fessler v watch tower.

stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

talesin

To BA reporting, I find this a bit off-putting.

The Trial is expected to last 5 or 6 days and John Redwood from JW Survey will be reporting on the developments each day.

John Redwood is not a journalist - that is a pseudonym, and really, if it's Lloyd Evans, or some other person who is reporting developments, should we not know who they are? Why the fake name?

I don't like this obfuscation, Barbara. We need to be transparent. Completely.

tal

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Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

by AndersonsInfo in

http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

stephanie fessler v watch tower.

stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

talesin

darkspilver, you said

Yes, exactly - and I understand that breaking the mandatory reporting laws is a criminal offense? - therefore why doesn't the State of Pennsylvania, who wrote the law, prosecute when the criminal law is broken? Maybe they have? I'm just going by what's been reported - or not - in this case.
Indeed.
This is another example of authorities paying lip service to the protection of children, but not following through with prosecution. I see law enforcement as especially lax when not charging teachers, clergy and others who are charged with caring for children, knew of the abuse, and failed to report. Failure to report is a *crime* in Canada. Maybe Orphan Crow has some stats on this, or another poster. I was unable to find instances where adults were charged with 'failure to report' in Canada.
(edit: sorry, the format's a bit messed up)

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Mary Tyler Moore Dec.29, 1936 – Jan.25, 2017

by glenster in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybujst8kozq https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgeojxtqtwc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxovacssahu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mary_tyler_moore.

talesin

LOL .... Simon.............. shadow banning? really? so sad.

Well, that's sad. That's all I have to say. *waves* Hi, Bohm, can't PM .. sorry. x

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

talesin

nic, I saw your post on the first page of this thread. THUMBS UP! :)

Edit: to bohm: We agree. OMG, that is so weird, after all these years, but I like it. xx

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Mary Tyler Moore Dec.29, 1936 – Jan.25, 2017

by glenster in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybujst8kozq https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgeojxtqtwc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxovacssahu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mary_tyler_moore.

talesin

Glenster - just signed in to say 'goodbye' to a legend.

As a young child, I remember her saying "Oh, Dick!". As a 20-something, I remember her throwing her hat in the air, and her wonderful friend, Phyllis.

An icon, for sure. RIP beautiful lady, who championed her cause (alcoholism), was an amazing comedienne, and the best since Lucy.

The best of the MTM show would be, for many fans, the "Chuckles the Clown" episode. I leave you with this. x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92I04DkMEps&t=32s

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Russell and 1881

by Old Goat in

schulz and de vienne [ https://www.amazon.com/separate-identity-organizational-readers-1870-1887/dp/1304969401 ] continue to work on volume 2 of their book.

you can see a partial version of a chapter on expectations for 1881 on their blog.

it's rough draft.

talesin

Hi there. I got your message (my PM function doesn't work, can't reply), and thanks so much, that's perfect. I appreciate your help. Take care. x

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WoMD ... so where are they?

by Simon in

now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

talesin

David Kay: WMDs That Never Were, A War That Ever Was

In 2004, almost a year after the start of the Iraq War, David Kay resigned his post as the United States' chief weapons inspector in Iraq. Kay said his group had found no evidence that Iraq had stockpiled chemical and biological weapons before the U.S.-led invasion. His findings were at odds with assertions from the Bush administration at the time. Host Liane Hansen talks with Kay about the conflict in Iraq since then.

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/29/136765601/david-kay-wmds-that-never-were-a-war-that-ever-was

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Happy 240th Anniversary of America's "Brexit" ;)

by breakfast of champions in

from one of the original thirteen colonies (new jersey) wishing happy independence day to everyone in the u.s.!.

have a safe and happy holiday!.

boc.

talesin

just fine

There are times I get that tear in my eye, too. I feel eternally grateful to be born Canadian - hey, I did nothing to earn it, no pride here - just gratitude. I love my 'Muricans, too.

You're so right .. we are lucky, and I happily kiss the ground and hug the trees of My Canada. ! xx

talesin

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