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  Starlight in a Young Universe

  by Perry in

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  the scientific method begins with a faith statement called a hypothesis, and then goes on to look for evidence, for or against support of the faith statement.. secular materialists often change their ideas on exactly how things have made themselves, but never whether they did.. the manifesto for this self imposed mental ban seems to be summed up by geneticist richard lewontin:.

  ‘our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural.

  we take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.. it is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.

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  The Scientific Method begins with a faith statement called a hypothesis, and then goes on to look for evidence, for or against support of the faith statement.

  No, Perry, the scientific method begins with a question, which is then researched. Evidence is gathered, and an hypothesis *may* be formed, which is then tested. Data is analyzed, and a conclusion may be drawn.

  You have to start your point with an accurate statement. So, the scientific method (which actually was highly influenced by and follows the *Socratic Method* does not involve faith of any kind, nor is an hypothesis a 'faith statement' - far from it. xx tal
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  You don't paint the rooms on the Titanic

  by TTWSYF in

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  this was the line my nephew gave me regarding why jws don't give alms.

  i had several rebuttals to give him, but didn't.

  i was hoping for some comments from this board.

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  Well, that is true, but as we all know, the Titanic had over 1,000 survivors. Are you saying you would have had the right to save only those you *liked*?
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  Memorial Invitation

  by sloppyjoe2 in

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  how do you faders/inactive handle being asked to the memorial by family?

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  This idiot just embarrasses me.

  by joe134cd in

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  yup a mentally diseased apostate.. http://youtu.be/e7qmypu7mxo.

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  If you want to have a laugh, this guy puts across the message of JW crazy by sharing some typical things we are criticized for .......

  Watch out for the Demonized Cakes ! ahahaha ..... have a laugh. I don't watch a lot of exJW stuff, but wanted to share this one. Enjoy!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMFDQNidS5o

  EDIT: I had to post a different video - same guy, but the 'cover page' was, imo, offensive. I didn't realize, sorry for the original --- video was very funny (demonized cakes,,, ahahaha_, but check this guy's channel, he has a lot of humour.

  As for the Angry guy at the convention - who knows? He may have the rage for a very good reason - at the very least, it may be his catharsis. xx
  
  
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  Swearing on the bible

  by Lost and adrift in

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  on the subject of truth.

  ..... i was always under the impression that one of the reasons jws couldn't do jury duty or go to court etc was that we were not allowed to swear on the bible.

  ..as in i swear to tell the truth the whole truth etc etc .

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  Blondie, another 'conscience matter' (officially) - no big surprise there.

  Yes, Carol1111, 'affirmation', that's the ticket! I couldn't remember the term. The last time I testified, the Bible was not even presented as an option. I was just asked to affirm by my own word.
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  Hello all just moved to Lakewood NY

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  it has been along time since i have posted something.

  my wife and i have just moved to ny just west of jamestown.

  our log house in pa was so far from everything it was costing us to much time and money.

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  Hi, neighbour! *waves from N.S.* I love old houses, too (especially Victorian & the old farmhouses - good stuff). Have fun with the project. NY is so beautiful, I'll have to google your town - may have been through there at some time, years ago.

  It's just weird, to think of the JW logo on a real estate office. : S Let's hope your children have something that just doesn't seem right, and change begins. ** an afterthought, as the grandchild grows, things may change - I am shunned, but see that my nephew is celebrating the holidays (via facebook), as his son got to school-age, things changed dramatically .. there is real hope, I believe that! xx **

  And yeah, pics would be awesome. xo tal
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  Witnesses killed my friend today.

  by WasOnceBlind in

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  today has been a horrible day.

  what began as a day of joy finding out that one of my lifelong friends had her baby, turned into a nightmare when her brother called me to let me know she had passed away after birth.

  i was in shock and didn't ask how.

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  Thinking of you today, WasOnceBlind. I don't know your day-to-day, if you had to work, whatever. Take care of yourself. xx tal
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  Congrats to Kim Mikey!

  by awake!watcher in

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  congrats to kim mikey, mike and kim reached 3000 subscribers on their youtube channel!

  go check em out!

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  Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  is it just me?

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  Some people can take a condescending tone, at times. I'll not single out Cofty, as he is not, in my opinion, the main 'offender', and there is no need to single out any individuals. I don't care for that type of talk, because I consider it to be ad hominem (though others argue that tone is not directed at the person - whatever).

  I do NOT think that departing facts about science is proselytizing, and think that we could all relax a bit about the issue. Let's keep the pot-stirring to a minimum. Xtians - stop whining. Atheists - lose the 'tude. Let's all try to play nice for a while, we're a support group. Yeah, things can get heated - and then it can be water under the damn.

  It's easy.. The *real* hippies know how that works; they are my tribe in RL, and taught me a lot about focussing on the important issues, and letting go of petty differences. Why would I want to mess with anyone's buzz? Especially mine. : D .
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  Office Jargon, drives me nuts

  by punkofnice in

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  'granular' seems to be the latest buzz word going around my office.

  previously it was 'appetite'.. abstract words that appear to be designed to make the person saying it appear powerful and part of the 'team'.. as lord sugar has observed before; why not just speak english and say what you mean.. office jargon really annoys me.

  i had enough loaded language and jargon in the disgusting jw cult..

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  Every Wednesday, I have a worker that drives me around. He is my Minder. :P
  
  We go to Wal-Mart (I know, but it's what I have to do) for some items - one of them is an huge bag of cat food (for the birds, actually). I have to wheel down the large aisle near the back, where they are having the weekly staff meeting. Yes, in the aisle. *rolls eyes*

  The loaded language of the W-Mart Cult of Sam (my term) makes me cringe every time I have to drive through it. They even hold hands and shit.

  ugh ..........