I think if a member wishes to feature a video in a thread, that's great! As for fomenting loyalties to 'this or that' youtube channel ... well, it's always felt safe here, because the forum is a neutral place.
We used to have an expression, back in the day "Let's NOT, and say we did." So let's NOT discuss the virtues of any youtube people vs another. Rather, let's celebrate the enjoyable, instructional and FUNNY vids.
Let's celebrate our differences - y'all! Don't you see how important that is? So WHAT if we disagree? We now have the right!
Enough with the drama, already! *grins* . xo tal
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Congrats to Kim Mikey!
by awake!watcher incongrats to kim mikey, mike and kim reached 3000 subscribers on their youtube channel!
go check em out!
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Evolution is a Fact #8 - Jumping Genes
by cofty inwe have all become familiar with the use of dna in forensics and paternity disputes.
all humans share 99.9% of their genome in common, but that still leaves plenty room for variation.. geneticists are able to study sections of dna that identify an individual and their closest relatives.
mostly these genetic markers are found in our non-coding dna such as the sections of code known as transposons.. one type of transposon is known as the alu element.
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Very cool, interesting! Nice work, C.
Now, if we could just make the editorializing disappear, less people would be 'scared off' by the science lesson. It's a thought (come one guys, let's win people over! I'm enjoying this, and I think that even 'believers' can, too!) That is to say, ignore trolling, stay focussed, and have fun with the subject. Throw no arrows. xx
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JW's Funerals, Forget About The Person! Let's Preach.
by new boy ingod forbid you would talk about the dead person at his funeral.
so what do most people get after living 70-80 years?.
a 5-10 minutes eulogy.
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lol @ OUTLAW !
I love old graveyards (we have some old ones here), and have some pics of interesting tombstones. I have one pic, of me, leaning on a gravestone with my name on it (my great-grandma, who was NOT a JW, but considered a WITCH *huge grin*).
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JW's Funerals, Forget About The Person! Let's Preach.
by new boy ingod forbid you would talk about the dead person at his funeral.
so what do most people get after living 70-80 years?.
a 5-10 minutes eulogy.
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I have to say, I never heard of an "eulogy" being given at a JW memorial service. That is, people who were friends or family, relating something about the person. A few sentences, by the elder giving the 'service'. is not considered an eulogy,. in the common sense.
I've decided, many years ago, that I will never participate in any JW-related death rituals, from the 'visitation' at the funeral home, to the memorial service. I honour people in life; the rituals after death are for the survivors. That group will only punish and exclude me, so sharing their rituals will only bring more pain. Better to experience that alone, than suffer their neglect / abuse. xx tal
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Snow fall in Jan 2015
by Lostandfound inwill the expected heavy snow isolate warwick ny, or brooklyn.
i hope the snow traps the gb showing clearly jehovah's favour and blessing.
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Marina, stay safe, and off the roads. I've been to Atlanta, and holy smoke, it's like Fla. People are NOT equipped for snow, including the cops and other emergency services. Also, I know some folks don't have sufficient heating systems. : (
It's hard for me to imagine Great Stone Mountain Park, with snow, although it would be beautiful! Be safe, and everyone else, especially if you're not accustomed to this weather and driving conditions. xo tal -
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Starlight in a Young Universe
by Perry inthe scientific method begins with a faith statement called a hypothesis, and then goes on to look for evidence, for or against support of the faith statement.. secular materialists often change their ideas on exactly how things have made themselves, but never whether they did.. the manifesto for this self imposed mental ban seems to be summed up by geneticist richard lewontin:.
‘our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural.
we take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.. it is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.
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Perry
As I pointed out on page one of this thread, your premise is destroyed in the first sentence, by its inaccuracy. You ignored my comment, and I wish to know why. Have you ignored me because your statement is indefensible? Or am I being too polite?
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"If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."
by OneEyedJoe ini've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.
this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.
i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.
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I just want to note, that I don't think anyone was "stupid" or "dumb" for joining. My mother brought in 2 converts - TWO!
They were both women who had 'mother problems' .... one was a teen mom, the other a 40-something who had led a party lifestyle, and was looking for something to save her.
I don't truly understand (being the Spock that I am), but I can feel empathy for needing to feel part of something, searching for a meaning in life. The JWS, especially with their love-bombing, and almost-perfect facade of loving fellowship, could be very attractive to a person who feels desolated, and so alone.
It's one reason why I want this Tower to fall! They prey on folks when they are weak, and that has to end. (not to mention, for the sake of the children) xoxo tal
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Snow fall in Jan 2015
by Lostandfound inwill the expected heavy snow isolate warwick ny, or brooklyn.
i hope the snow traps the gb showing clearly jehovah's favour and blessing.
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After last winter's late pounding, I doubt much would bother anyone in the north-east. Although, the snowfalls seem to be hitting further south, into Pennsy, and lower states, which is concerning. Those folks don't have snow tires, and the insulation and heating capabilities that we have further north. That concerns me. xx tal
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"If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."
by OneEyedJoe ini've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.
this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.
i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.
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For those that were born-in, did you ever realize that you never would've joined if not for the circumstances of your birth? If you did, how long did you live with that knowledge before finally and fully waking up?
I can say that the person I am, would never have joined. But if I'd been born into a different family, with different genes, experiences, etc., then anything is possible. Guessing what *might have been* is always a fool's errand. But as long as we realize it's fantasy, I'm good with that.
I left the Lie when I was 18. Never really believed it - just tried to please my parents as a child, and of course, went along with their belief system until I reached an age of understanding (before baptism at 14, that was for THEM).
Umm, realizing that I had dramatic events that slapped me in the face. A gay friend hanging himself, pioneer friends having sex with their boyfriends, and a long illness ... those events said loud and clear "This is NOT the Truth (TM), and you cannot live a lie." That was my personal journey and choice, though.
It was not easy to leave, and for years, I resented a good friend (a bestest friend, really) who led a double life. Now, though, I have learned to be less judgmental, and realize that it's okay to do that. I wouldn't wish my life on anyone (being a 3rd gen on one side, and 4th on the other, I lost a lot, and at that time, no internet or support).
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Guide to a Double Life: Don't Feel Guilty
by Hadriel infirst off lets be clear i wouldn't call it "double life" but rather life here today.
that said i'll give a little experience for those younger ones that may be thinking they wish to leave the organization but are too young to do so as they are under age.. field service was quite the regular occurrence in my household.
we never missed.
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* bump * some good advice here