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  The saga of Russell and Rutherford

  by Terry in

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  i think little charlie russell having been born after many miscarriages by his mother, was doted on and coddled beyond normal.

  his mother died of a fever epidemic when he was about 9 and he may have associated burning with fever with burning in hell.he seemed to be obsessed about hell for awhile even to the point of graffiti on sidewalks marking scriptures as warnings.he was privately tutored and brought into the men's clothing business and given and adult's responsibilities.

  although the family was presbyterian, there appears to be a streak of insubordination in the genes because they switched to a congregational church with an autonomy of leadership and no organizational oversight.why was this a big deal, do you think?

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  talesin

  Chuck Russell was all about the money. His Miracle Wheat scam was just one that paid off, and has gained some notoriety.
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  Satan & Disasters

  by Hadriel in

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  2. bible

  was told by someone that a receipt article eluded to the fact that satan can cause natural disasters.

  i don't see how i could have missed this.

  doesn't anyone remember this?

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  talesin

  Insurance companies don't usually pay out for 'acts of God' unless you have a specific flood insurance or whatever is needed (for which coverage you pay dearly).

  I posted the *one* site that agrees with JWS. I found 5 others that says Satan has nothing to do with it. It is God's creations, and he controls the earth. They are so-called 'acts of God' on most of the Xtian sites I visited. xx
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  Gospel Story Quiz

  by Petraglyph in

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  2. friends

  see how well you know your bible with the gospel story quiz - 20 quick multiple-choice questions.... gospel story quiz.

  share how many answers you got right ;).

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  talesin

  haha, well, isn't that something? You know the answer, and I won't be a 'spoiler'.
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  Shunning: is it still practiced?

  by FinchAndWeston in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are df, da and apostates still shunned?

  are each treated differently?

  i heard a secondhand report that they seemed to have eased up on this practice ...

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  talesin

  Mrs. Flipper

  Rabbit's daughters have been shunning him for at least 10-15 years; they are not even JWS! Even when his wife died, it sickens me.

  I just ... don't ... get it. "Lack of natural affection" ... indeed.
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  Shunning: is it still practiced?

  by FinchAndWeston in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are df, da and apostates still shunned?

  are each treated differently?

  i heard a secondhand report that they seemed to have eased up on this practice ...

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  talesin

  Let's not forget, they are the losers in this game of life - not to be mean. But I refuse to assume the victim / martyr stance.

  I am in touch with a family member, secretly. The risk is DF. My parents also are receiving pressure to stay away. Shunning is alive and well in Canada - my immediate family is spread from coast-to-coast, and they all shun.
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  How many here have meet face to face?

  by greenhornet in

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  2. friends

  years ago when i joined this forum we use to meet each other in person and it was nice to talk in person about our background and why we left.

  years ago i meet "seattle nice guy" and another guy buy name of arie was his real name he was from spokane wa.

  usa.

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  talesin

  That is sad. My friend in Philly died last year, and we had planned visit this spring. It ain't easy sometimes. xx
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  Who has made an unforgivable sin against the holy spirit?

  by atomant in

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  2. beliefs

  we all sin and some sins are worse than others but blasphemy against the holy spirit is said to be unforgivable.what is considered to be an unforgivable sin?

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  talesin

  Found it, in WT, but it's 2007, so you and I were long gone (unless it's a rewrite) That was weird, ugh.

  w07 7/15 p. 17

  
  
  2 Yes, it is possible to sin against Jehovah’s holy spirit. “Every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men,” said Jesus Christ, “but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven.” (Matthew 12:31) We are warned: “If we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, but there is a certain fearful expectation of judgment.” (Hebrews 10:26, 27) And the apostle John wrote: “There is a sin that does incur death.” (1 John 5:16) But is it left to the one who has sinned seriously to determine whether he has committed “a sin that does incur death”?
  9. What is blasphemy, and what did Jesus say about it?
  9 Blasphemy is defamatory, injurious, or abusive speech. Since the holy spirit has God as its Source, saying things against his spirit is the same as speaking against Jehovah. Unrepentantly resorting to speech of that kind is unforgivable. Jesus’ words about such sin show that Jesus is referring to those who willfully oppose the operation of God’s holy spirit. Because Jehovah’s spirit was at work in Jesus but his opposers ascribed this power to the Devil, they sinfully blasphemed against the spirit. Hence, Jesus declared: “Whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever, but is guilty of everlasting sin.”—Mark 3:20-29.
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  Who has made an unforgivable sin against the holy spirit?

  by atomant in

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  2. beliefs

  we all sin and some sins are worse than others but blasphemy against the holy spirit is said to be unforgivable.what is considered to be an unforgivable sin?

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  smiddy, I don't remember it either. Here's the current teaching ... I went to the site (sry, just threw up a little in my mouth)

  ... However, a person can become so set in following a sinful course that he will never change his attitude or conduct. The Bible describes such a person as having “a wicked heart” that has “become hardened by the deceptive power of sin.” (Hebrews 3:12, 13) Like clay that has been fired in a kiln and that can never be reshaped, the person’s heart has become permanently opposed to God. (Isaiah 45:9) There could never be a basis for such a person to be forgiven, so he is guilty of the unforgivable, or unpardonable, sin.—Hebrews 10:26, 27.
  Some Jewish religious leaders in Jesus’ day committed the unforgivable sin. They knew that God’s holy spirit was the force behind Jesus’ miracles, yet they maliciously said that he got his power from Satan the Devil.—Mark 3:22, 28-30.
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  Changes in the last 7-ish years?

  by FinchAndWeston in

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  2. beliefs

  what has changed in the last 7 years?

  just curious .... 1) do they still shun?

  what's the policy on da's, df's and a?.

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  talesin

  A few years ago, in December 2011 or 2012, if I recall, they had a WT article that featured 'diseased apostates', and said that we are suffering from a mental illness.

  The press was contacted, and a major British newspaper wrote an article. About 36 hours was spent with JWS and exJWS debating the issues in the comments section which is a world forum. It was very exciting, and I think, opened a few eyes to who the JWS really are.

  The article made the front page of one of the atheist 'leaders' news ,,, was it Dawkins?
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  How many here have meet face to face?

  by greenhornet in

  1. jw
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  years ago when i joined this forum we use to meet each other in person and it was nice to talk in person about our background and why we left.

  years ago i meet "seattle nice guy" and another guy buy name of arie was his real name he was from spokane wa.

  usa.

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  talesin

  Brent, posts here sometimes, is from that area. It's about midnight, though, so a lot of folks might be sleeping.

  I'm gonna try to get into my facebook (have a virus - I killed it, but need some code rewritten, I get 'the Blue Screen of Death" ahaha, that name slays me), and check on the other. I have another good friend out your way, but they are not on the board,