Posts by talesin

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Childless elders need to piss off

by Steel in

anyone else think it's wrong to ask a women with small children to volunteer there time, ask if they like to come to a potential study etc etc?.

my wife just spent an entire day helping with a kingdom hall reno while i babysat.

i latter stepped out and saw half the elders having coffee because they had so many people show up, they were tripping over each other.. i also have no idea what tangible skill my wife offered or why it is important she needs to be there.. i just wish these men would man up and be men, instead of just wasting everyone's time on purpose.

talesin

I hate to quote Nancy Reagan, but "Just say NO." Once you practice it a few times, it's easy. "NO" is a complete sentence!

And, I have to add that, spending time taking care of your own children is NOT babysitting. You are learning TTATT, and that is great. Freedom! It also means freedom and EQUALITY. Your wife is not the caretaker of your family - you are a team. Babysitting? Really? <=== that is reality in the RW. Don't worry - it's more fun than the JW way, and the kids - they will give you so many laughs, and your relationship with wife is so much better when you are equals. x

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Fires! "Catastrophic fire conditions" in New south Wales, Australia

by zeb in

"catastrophic" is the highest level of fire danger and is current in most of nsw.

temperatures in the high 40's ( c )are being recorded.. some fires have broken out already.

please keep the fire fighters and these country folk in minds and prayers.. the city of sydney may face power outs as the electrical system cant keep up with the demand for power.

talesin

damn, fsp. I don't come on here much; it's nice to cross paths. I am reminded of a time of interesting discussions with yourself and another Canadian, what was his NAME, it's on the tip of my tongue? His avatar was Paul Newman, and he was also a laid-back thinker (had the Newman 'tude, so the photo was apt, as is yours. 'the thinker', is what runs through my brain when I see your avatar).

Take care, man. ; )

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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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ever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.

while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.

we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.

talesin

ILoveTTATT2

I don't believe in 'freedom of religion', in the American way. The recent arrest of JWS in the middle east as a form of religious suppression does not bother me.

How many times have people on this forum wished that they could SUE the Watchtower for their violation of human rights? Well, if religion violates human rights, then it should be outlawed. Sue for money, put them in jail; comme ci, comme ca ... ppffttt!

I have always taken a 'soft stance' with Xtians on this forum, and supported their right to be heard. I still support that. But if countries (even Russia or China or Afghanistan or any place) want to ban religion, or JW, or any 'belief', I am all for it! Let the revolution begin! Down with G-d!

(No disrespect meant to any deists. If you wish to believe in fairy tales, so be it.)

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Fires! "Catastrophic fire conditions" in New south Wales, Australia

by zeb in

"catastrophic" is the highest level of fire danger and is current in most of nsw.

temperatures in the high 40's ( c )are being recorded.. some fires have broken out already.

please keep the fire fighters and these country folk in minds and prayers.. the city of sydney may face power outs as the electrical system cant keep up with the demand for power.

talesin

Smiddy, that is like Nova Scotia, my home. They say "if you don't like the weather, wait 15 minutes".

I hope we don't have the bad fires in AU like a few years ago, and to you as well, and all reading, be safe!

xx tal

PS. We are getting a blizzard tomorrow - it's opposite-land! xx

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Fires! "Catastrophic fire conditions" in New south Wales, Australia

by zeb in

"catastrophic" is the highest level of fire danger and is current in most of nsw.

temperatures in the high 40's ( c )are being recorded.. some fires have broken out already.

please keep the fire fighters and these country folk in minds and prayers.. the city of sydney may face power outs as the electrical system cant keep up with the demand for power.

talesin

wow, that is almost apocalyptic!~ I remember a couple of years ago, my Australian friend, SU and his community, were fighting serious fires. I think in WA? Please excuse my ignorance of Australian geography. The fires, with the landscape the way it is (at least in Stephen's part of AU), were quite frightening.

it makes me shudder.

I hope you and all yours are safe, dear zeb.

Good thoughts to all.

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Mandatory Reporting Laws in Canada - Child Abuse

by OrphanCrow in

the issue of whether or not the elders have a duty to report is clear cut in canada.

this will make it impossible for the wts to wriggle out of the wrongs that have been exposed in quebec recently.

the elders in those situations have received their instructions from the wts lawyers and they have been advised wrongly.. for several years (can't remember when this was made law...years back), it has been mandatory for everyone in canada to report suspected cases of child abuse, which, naturally, include the sexual abuse of minors.

talesin

OC - nice work! This has been federal law for decades. When I took my training (working with rape crisis), that was back in '95. It was the law then. Just a heads up, and good to see this thoroughly presented. :)

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Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

by AndersonsInfo in

http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

stephanie fessler v watch tower.

stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

talesin

If John Redwood wants to report on the case every day surely that is a good thing. Better than not. I don't see where shes not been transparent.

In my little world, we need to have credibility. Do you know who John Redwood is/was? Obviously not. The use of John Redwood for a pseudonym is inflammatory, at the least.

There IS no John Redwood reporting. Are you getting it? YET?

Seriously. *eye roll*

FYI, from Wiki, and also FYI , there is no "John Redwood" in the exJW movement, such as it is.

John Alan Redwood (born 15 June 1951) is a British Conservative Party politician and Member of Parliament (MP) for Wokingham in the county of Berkshire. He was formerly Secretary of State for Wales in Prime Minister John Major's Cabinet and was an unsuccessful challenger for the leadership of the Conservative Party in 1995. He is currently Co-Chairman of the Conservative Party's Policy Review Group on Economic Competitiveness. He is employed by N M Rothschild & Sons.

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Was Ray Franz Playing The Long Game?

by rory-ks in

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i'm just making my way through crisis of conscience for the second time and once again i am struck by the presentation of such detailed records.

letters are shown in full - copies of letters from the branch, and to the branch.

reports are quoted vebatim.

talesin

To me, Ray Franz seemed to be genuine, and as an uneducated man, used his natural logic. He saw the corruption; he saw the crazy - in his own relative. The book, CofC, is dry and poorly written, but shows an earnest man's attempt (and he succeeds) to expose the fraud of an organization that he once believed in.

I don't feel he was playing any game; he was more of a naif, and just telling the truth as he saw it. He did what he felt was right, that's all.

x tal

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Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

by AndersonsInfo in

http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

stephanie fessler v watch tower.

stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

talesin

To BA reporting, I find this a bit off-putting.

The Trial is expected to last 5 or 6 days and John Redwood from JW Survey will be reporting on the developments each day.

John Redwood is not a journalist - that is a pseudonym, and really, if it's Lloyd Evans, or some other person who is reporting developments, should we not know who they are? Why the fake name?

I don't like this obfuscation, Barbara. We need to be transparent. Completely.

tal

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Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

by AndersonsInfo in

http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

stephanie fessler v watch tower.

stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

talesin

darkspilver, you said

Yes, exactly - and I understand that breaking the mandatory reporting laws is a criminal offense? - therefore why doesn't the State of Pennsylvania, who wrote the law, prosecute when the criminal law is broken? Maybe they have? I'm just going by what's been reported - or not - in this case.
Indeed.
This is another example of authorities paying lip service to the protection of children, but not following through with prosecution. I see law enforcement as especially lax when not charging teachers, clergy and others who are charged with caring for children, knew of the abuse, and failed to report. Failure to report is a *crime* in Canada. Maybe Orphan Crow has some stats on this, or another poster. I was unable to find instances where adults were charged with 'failure to report' in Canada.
(edit: sorry, the format's a bit messed up)