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  God is Real in Principle

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  "It's that it is not evidence by any standards! It does not matter whether anyone sees it as evidence... because it is not evidence by any standards!" Understood. I'm saying that people can see it as evidence... Not sure how I can make this clearer to you. "I don't remember you talking about ancient history" Could have been replying to someone else. "Fine. I'll leave it to you. I'll be doing myself a favor." Thank you. It is an opinion after all but be just disagree, Saename. No problem.

  "I distinctly remember your saying that both the scientific method and the belief system can lead to both right and wrong. And now you're saying that "[i]t's about the process to the goodwill." And also it's unclear what you mean by "goodwill."" That was said to make sure we're on the right page but I said goodwill to mean in particular the right part as executable things are wrong. No question. But the scientific method can be used for badness just like a religious system can. But I specifically was just focused on them used for good.
  
  
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  God is Real in Principle

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  "You keep using big words that don't quite fit what you're trying to say or what you think they mean. Stop it. It's like you eaten a dictionary and don't quite know how to digest it. It's taking away from what you're trying to say." Not sure how, Landy. It's just being more precise in how you present your standing point. That's just my style but I appreciate you trying to help.
  
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  God is Real in Principle

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  I'm well aware that they are inherently different but I'm saying they could be alike in that context, Saename. It's all a matter of what ones vision sees. "I'm not calling anyone crazy. I was pointing out that there is no logic in that meme just like there is no logic in your saying that creation can be evidence (which then you are contradicting later on by saying that it can be a proof), and how it's similar to the scientific method..." Exactly, there is no logic from the way you see it. I'd be inclined to agree but what I'm saying is that creation can be proof to people that God exists. Is that so hard to get? Just because you yourself don't see it as evidence and think it's wrong doesn't mean everyone has to.

  "You were just "implying" that" Yes I was and recall using the word scarce once to refer to it. It was as simple as it could be. "You're saying that those systems are similar based on too general aspects!" Yes. That's true but not really involving when it's about someone who is engaged in wrong activities. It's about the process to the goodwill. "So... every species has an "essence" of who they are?" Actually, I believe they all do. Every species has an essence of the nature of their features. Again, my opinion. Don't take it as a statement of pure truth as it's subjective. Please.
  
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  God is Real in Principle

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Thank you, sparky1. I'll check into that! But I've never been good at that naturally so while it may be possible to improve slightly, it will not be the level that most people acquire.
  
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Well, that was the point, Saename. That the two were similar. Obviously, the scientific method and the Christian way of life are different, right and wrong are opposites, we all know this, but I was just saying and pointing out that each can lead to righteousness or wrongness from an objective point of view. "I don't think you took Social Sciences in high school... You'd at least know what the scientific method is..." I don't think it's fair for you to call people crazy just because you disagree with their beliefs when they aren't hurting anyone or anything. This does apply for the people who are doing wrong of course. I know what the scientific method is, again I'm looking at everything from a pure objective point of view.

  "Ancient history does not deal in proofs or disproof's but in evidence—usually very scarce evidence." Well, that's what I was implying, thanks. "I have no idea whatsoever how that could be similar to the scientific method" I'm saying that each are a system through which people see things as certain. That's all I'm saying.

  "which Viviane has been reasonably rejecting as well." These are just my ideas, you don't have to reject them as if I'm saying that they are the truth.

  "I'm going to go even further and say that... humans are not unique at all. We are different from animals in the degree to which we can use rational thought etc. However, that does not make us unique. We are different because of evolution. Evolution can favor animals as much as it did favor our kind. What is so unique about that?" If you don't believe that we are unique then that's cool. I however believe all species are unique in there own way. Just my opinion.
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  God is Real in Principle

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  OrphanCrow if you want to call it "blame shifting". That's okay. But I disagree. "At no time have you said, "oh, geez, I guess I didn't understand the terms I have used." Because I did understand. What do you expect when every time you reply to someone they tell you that you're wrong or you don't know what you're talking and attempt to ask me another question so they can tell me the exact same thing regardless of what was said instead of trying to comply at least once. Here's the deal. I'm looking at it in the way of blaming because it's my idea. I never said that my idea was the absolute truth because it's just that, my idea.
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  God is Real in Principle

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Cool. But if I were to inherently say the topic at hand, the backlash might be worse. It was made in a way that I hoped people understood and some did. But the problem is that the ones that didn't insist on deducing me to get them to understand when they just don't and it's clear to me.
  
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  God is Real in Principle

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  I just said I wasn't blaming anyone. We just see things differently.
  
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  God is Real in Principle

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  It's my own work, Landy. That's why it seemed rather long because I wanted to explain, the best way viable. It took me awhile to bring it off. "You simply seek to blame someone else for it rather than realize it's your own lack of an argument that is the cause of your current feelings." I'm not blaming anyone, Viviane, I'm just saying we don't see things the same way.
  
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  God is Real in Principle

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  It's clear you don't understand my original idea, which is fine. If you don't get it, you don't get it. That's not to say you will never get it but you don't now. Frankly, this has gone so off topic that I'm bored to continue to discuss. And all you do now is say I'm not intelligent and ask me questions just for it to further go into this black hole. I'm not continuing to discuss with someone who keeps doing that. Off this.