Posts by looter

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People hate God?

by looter in

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it is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.

like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.

i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.

First of all, who said I of all people hate the other Gods? I don't hate them, it's called respect. Don't put words in my mouth like that. Anyone here who says that Yeshua is a fictional character is so blasphemous it's a shame. You all should be ashamed to say stuff like that especially when you believed in it so firmly once upon a time. It makes me so sick to my stomach to read that nonsense. How could he be a fictional character when a you atheists voice your own displeasure against him for not saving someone in your life when you were probably the person that started it and was bitter. If God is bitter it's because of the people here who are bitter toward him. Why are you guys so angry? Just tell the truth and say that you hate the creator and want to change.

And just why would it take exhaustive investigation for someone to find out they disbelieve in God? To me, that's called self-propaganda. That means a person must have got used to the ways of his upbringing and attempted to do the same thing to themselves to achieve something better. But they don't realize they just made their whole life worse. They did all that purposely because they chose to not be faithful and strong. They let the cults ruin their perception of God beyond recovery, along with their own stubbornness and attempted to basically make it worse by participating in the knowing of what they might call evidence, or really just a reason to not trust in God. How sad. And I would hope everyone can learn from this but a lot of the atheists on this forum are just too set in their own ways. Again, sad.

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Benefits to Faith over Reason

by cobweb in

i wrote this earlier for my own benefit in order to get some thoughts straight in my head.

it is just my own personal pondering on what i think might be the motivating force behind having a faith.

it is not intended to attack, provoke or patronize anyone who has a belief and i hope it is not taken in that way.

looter

It warms my heart to read this! It's like I just read my mind. You are absolutely correct in that people who do not have faith do not have happiness or overall good feelings inside of them. Personally, I feel most people who choose to disbelieve do so because it's basically the norm nowadays and everyone is doing it. This is just a classic case of conformity within the human race. As for honesty, most of us who have retained being a follower of Jesus are honest, it's just that most people don't give us a chance to voice our inner minds without objecting and attacking promptly.

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People hate God?

by looter in

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friends

it is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.

like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.

i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.

looter

It is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating God, who created everything. Like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit. I'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the Lord. I mean, many hospitals, poverty, and relief organizations have been founded in his name and if people failed to have faith then would we have those aids today? No, because without God the world would be in even more chaos. Most atheists sure put a lot of effort into something that they think doesn't exist. But it all makes sense that they hate him not necessarily disbelieve.

It also makes sense that some atheists are in a state of religious rebellion so perplexing that it strains their common understanding of faith to it's breaking point. So there. They are really rebels deep inside and don't want to admit it so they constantly make up stories of how God is false and not real even though they are only hurting themselves. But you all are probably thinking, why do I care so much about them? I like to think of some on this forum as intelligent people who reject God from a sense of moral despair because of the amount of injustice and suffering that they witness in this world.

At the same time, you all are kind of defeating yourselves because you'll never try and voice your true opinion about God, instead you continue to proclaim he doesn't exist which is impossible. Why? Because if he didn't exist you wouldn't hate him so much. And if you actually said to everyone that you hated God, you'd face prison, fines, and maybe even death. Now it's not only atheist who hate God, there are other types of people who hate them, but the same applies to them as well.

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Did the flood happen?

by BlackWolf in

so we were talking about noah for our family worship tonight and it ended with a little debate between me and my parents about how the flood was possible.

you know, where did the water come from, how did all the animals fit, etc.

of course it led nowhere and my parents came up with some strange theories like that there was "an expanse of water in the sky" and that's where all the water came from.

looter

Yes, of course it happened. Just don't believe Jws interpretation of it.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

looter

Shunning? That's what witnesses do and I'm strictly against that nonsense. Everything else you mentioned is just a generalization. You clearly just find me irritating and are making up stuff to make up for your dislike of me and God. If you really want help from all that I urge you and orphan to pick up a bible and read through and don't follow what the jw.org says. That's me being helpful to hurt souls. But first you all have to admit your anger before I can help you. It isn't that hard. To me, everybody should read the bible and with a very critical eye, but without anger. Maybe then you could see the Yeshua is true. Maybe, maybe not.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

looter

Giles Gray, That's not the same thing at all. In a film you know that the characters don't exist in real life. Atheists just don't think God exists even when there's no proof for his non existence. and as for orphancrow, There's no need for me to engage in silly questions just for you to ridicule me. It's very obvious that you hate God just as much as the others and yet you play like you want to be saved. Nope.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

looter

Someone asked why cannot atheists have bad attitudes toward God. Well, they can. But when you disrespect him on others account that's where the problem comes in. DJS probably has had a hatred for God for a long time. When he is in the frame of mind that he isn’t sure, and there just might be a God, he is still defiant and angry, most likely saying that he is going to hell, and doesn’t care. Attacking me and saying he doesn't exist because no proof is just him trying to take his frustration out on me which of course I don't approve.

DJS is just a bitter, angry man in rebellion against God, the being that created him. He can say he isn't, but a person never rails against something they don’t think exists. And that's fact.

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The Atheist Delusion

by looter in

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atheist delusion.

just want to know what the ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov.

the video was actually an advertisement on here.

looter

You proved my point.

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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

by cofty in

arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

looter

If you actually read my post, DJS, you'd see that I talked mostly about those type of atheists. Now you've done nothing more to prove to me that you are that type. You hate God but disguise it as non belief as a lot do. As a human being to another human being, I will say to you that God did not create you to be an atheist, but he did so for you to be you. Why did he create us? One reason is to help those that are less fortunate which is exactly what I'm trying to do for you.

You all rebel against God’s purpose and instead look out for only ourselves and then cry out 'why don’t God help me and them?' Regardless of what you or any atheists may say about God or those who believe in him, I will pray for you because you are a human being and deserve to get at least some good in your lives but I will be damned if I let you get away with calling me a criminal. I was just replying to you.

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The Atheist Delusion

by looter in

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atheist delusion.

just want to know what the ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov.

the video was actually an advertisement on here.

looter

Yeah DJS you don't believe in God but you constantly insult him like he's real and someone you hate? Don't think people buy that you don't believe in him. I think you believe in him but just like other atheists, you don't want to respect him or obey him so you say he doesn't exists because of lack of evidence which isn't true.