Beautiful, the positivist tells me I'm dishonest again when she evidently thinks nothing of God and because of that feels in the right to call others crazy. Viviane you are definitely a positivist because you clearly don't have the ability to think without that preconceived science philosophy. That makes sense because despite disagreeing with those who believe in the Lord such as myself, you can't even respect our beliefs even though you think it's wrong. What's worse is that other users promote that contempt along with you. That is what's truly "nutters". But this is the internet afterall, full of rudeness, so what should I expect? May God be with us all.
looter
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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looter
Viviane so anyone who disagrees with you is a nutterball? You and others love to call people crazy just because they have faith and you don't. That's a form of discrimination.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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looter
John_Mann you have a good point. It's too bad some people cannot get your point no matter how simple it is. Don't pay Viviane no mind, all she does is assert that you're wrong and have no undertanding no matter what you say. By the way, this entire thread you've had some interesting perspectives on the matter and you have to be applauded for your case I nice manner.
I'm a youth of God and he wanted our purpose to be hapiness. The best way we can be happy is to give him the best we can in our life, relationships, and actions. That explains it the best way the his holy power in me could. Good night.
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The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)
by EdenOne inas i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.
i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.
and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.
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It's only logical to assume that God created it, nicolaou. I and many other theists see the rapid onset of advanced humanity as harmonious with scripture’s account of the special creation of man in the image of the living God. A highlight of the genesis account is the creation of man in which the initial mention of the vast array of the creation of life forms concludes that God created man and woman to become many and feel the earth. His original plan for reproduction and gametes is very clear. Genesis 1:27 characterizes male and female reproduction as a divine plan originating in the mind of the Creator. The more we discover scientifically, the more it goes back to the bible.
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The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)
by EdenOne inas i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.
i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.
and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.
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It isn't a careless supposition at all. It's just them taking a look at the complexity of reproduction and realizing that it appears to be designed rather than come from superficial chance.
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People hate God?
by looter init is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.
like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.
i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.
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First of all, who said I of all people hate the other Gods? I don't hate them, it's called respect. Don't put words in my mouth like that. Anyone here who says that Yeshua is a fictional character is so blasphemous it's a shame. You all should be ashamed to say stuff like that especially when you believed in it so firmly once upon a time. It makes me so sick to my stomach to read that nonsense. How could he be a fictional character when a you atheists voice your own displeasure against him for not saving someone in your life when you were probably the person that started it and was bitter. If God is bitter it's because of the people here who are bitter toward him. Why are you guys so angry? Just tell the truth and say that you hate the creator and want to change.
And just why would it take exhaustive investigation for someone to find out they disbelieve in God? To me, that's called self-propaganda. That means a person must have got used to the ways of his upbringing and attempted to do the same thing to themselves to achieve something better. But they don't realize they just made their whole life worse. They did all that purposely because they chose to not be faithful and strong. They let the cults ruin their perception of God beyond recovery, along with their own stubbornness and attempted to basically make it worse by participating in the knowing of what they might call evidence, or really just a reason to not trust in God. How sad. And I would hope everyone can learn from this but a lot of the atheists on this forum are just too set in their own ways. Again, sad.
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Benefits to Faith over Reason
by cobweb ini wrote this earlier for my own benefit in order to get some thoughts straight in my head.
it is just my own personal pondering on what i think might be the motivating force behind having a faith.
it is not intended to attack, provoke or patronize anyone who has a belief and i hope it is not taken in that way.
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It warms my heart to read this! It's like I just read my mind. You are absolutely correct in that people who do not have faith do not have happiness or overall good feelings inside of them. Personally, I feel most people who choose to disbelieve do so because it's basically the norm nowadays and everyone is doing it. This is just a classic case of conformity within the human race. As for honesty, most of us who have retained being a follower of Jesus are honest, it's just that most people don't give us a chance to voice our inner minds without objecting and attacking promptly.
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People hate God?
by looter init is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.
like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.
i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.
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It is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating God, who created everything. Like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit. I'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the Lord. I mean, many hospitals, poverty, and relief organizations have been founded in his name and if people failed to have faith then would we have those aids today? No, because without God the world would be in even more chaos. Most atheists sure put a lot of effort into something that they think doesn't exist. But it all makes sense that they hate him not necessarily disbelieve.
It also makes sense that some atheists are in a state of religious rebellion so perplexing that it strains their common understanding of faith to it's breaking point. So there. They are really rebels deep inside and don't want to admit it so they constantly make up stories of how God is false and not real even though they are only hurting themselves. But you all are probably thinking, why do I care so much about them? I like to think of some on this forum as intelligent people who reject God from a sense of moral despair because of the amount of injustice and suffering that they witness in this world.
At the same time, you all are kind of defeating yourselves because you'll never try and voice your true opinion about God, instead you continue to proclaim he doesn't exist which is impossible. Why? Because if he didn't exist you wouldn't hate him so much. And if you actually said to everyone that you hated God, you'd face prison, fines, and maybe even death. Now it's not only atheist who hate God, there are other types of people who hate them, but the same applies to them as well.
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Did the flood happen?
by BlackWolf inso we were talking about noah for our family worship tonight and it ended with a little debate between me and my parents about how the flood was possible.
you know, where did the water come from, how did all the animals fit, etc.
of course it led nowhere and my parents came up with some strange theories like that there was "an expanse of water in the sky" and that's where all the water came from.
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looter
Yes, of course it happened. Just don't believe Jws interpretation of it.
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Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This
by cofty inarguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....
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looter
Shunning? That's what witnesses do and I'm strictly against that nonsense. Everything else you mentioned is just a generalization. You clearly just find me irritating and are making up stuff to make up for your dislike of me and God. If you really want help from all that I urge you and orphan to pick up a bible and read through and don't follow what the jw.org says. That's me being helpful to hurt souls. But first you all have to admit your anger before I can help you. It isn't that hard. To me, everybody should read the bible and with a very critical eye, but without anger. Maybe then you could see the Yeshua is true. Maybe, maybe not.