When I said I've been around as long as I have I meant that since I'm only 18 and what I've seen so far in my life. I just don't think others have really looked at things in the country the way I have but that doesn't mean that you guys are inferior, it just means that you guys need to look harder to find the truth that America is filled with just too many atheists and I don't mean to be a fool when I'm saying this but the truth is that everyone really needs to consider amping up their own faith for us as a country to go on making it like we used to because at any moment now this country, and I do mean this entire country, can fail because of this. Remember that I'm just trying to help and I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt but everyone seems to make it seem that way but they don't realize what I'm saying has a lot of truth to it and I don't intend on trying to hide the truth.
looter
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"Exodus:Why Americans are leaving Religion-and Why They'er Unlikely to come back.
by James Mixon inreligion news article by lauren markoe.. some interesting points in the article.
the study follows the publication earlier this year of a book.
by study co-author and prri founder robert p. jones, titled "the end of white christian america".. the name "nones" are people who claim no affiliation with religion, they outnumber any religious denomination.. according to the poll-which has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percent-age points-the nones have.
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"Exodus:Why Americans are leaving Religion-and Why They'er Unlikely to come back.
by James Mixon inreligion news article by lauren markoe.. some interesting points in the article.
the study follows the publication earlier this year of a book.
by study co-author and prri founder robert p. jones, titled "the end of white christian america".. the name "nones" are people who claim no affiliation with religion, they outnumber any religious denomination.. according to the poll-which has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percent-age points-the nones have.
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DJS, if you've been around as long as I have then you wouldn't need to research because you know what you see. Every time a person looks up they see an atheist trying to brainwash them into thinking that everything would be better if nobody had any God for Spirit, which is very wrong. That's why the United States is going down because most people think badly about religion but not only religion it's the worship that they despise which is leading this country astray. You are very wrong about how the more atheists there are in a country, the more better it is. If anything, the more atheists there are, the more corrupt society becomes because of that arrogant attitude against God. -
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"Exodus:Why Americans are leaving Religion-and Why They'er Unlikely to come back.
by James Mixon inreligion news article by lauren markoe.. some interesting points in the article.
the study follows the publication earlier this year of a book.
by study co-author and prri founder robert p. jones, titled "the end of white christian america".. the name "nones" are people who claim no affiliation with religion, they outnumber any religious denomination.. according to the poll-which has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percent-age points-the nones have.
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Well, that makes sense because America has the most atheists of any nation in the entire world. It really goes to show you how far this country has fallen when most people don't believe or even have any type of spirituality for the most part. Hopefully that changes in a few years but honestly it might take longer like a few decades to get everything back in place. But you know I think religion will take on a new form because God knows what everyone needs and it probably won't be like previously but it will be better hopefully that's true.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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looter
Okay now you are making me mad, Cofty. God is and does exist and don't think I'm going to say he doesn't. You're just wasting your time because I know he is true and just because you let a false sense of evidence fill your mind, don't think you can do the same thing to me because as I said earlier I'm hip to that brainwashing jazz. You said you want evidence that he exists? Well I will give you evidence. How about the fact that you and I and billions are actually alive and well on this Earth today without harm and are sufficient? If God wanted to, he can crush us with his finger but he doesn't because he loves us. What about our own brain and the fact that our brain can have the ability to disbelieve in the Lord should give us evidence that he exists as if he didn't he wouldn't have gave us that ability.
The complexity of our brain as humans can only be through a designer. How about the fact that life goes in so many cycles. The fact that life itself is a cycle and the fact that we are born so well and so sufficiently should be proof enough that God exist and is alive and well and wants to help us otherwise we would be dead already. Don't you think it's hard to deny his love for us when you think about the process of birds and life itself and not just that but trees, the ocean, water, nature and all these things. May I ask you Cofty, do you remember what Luke said about God's creation? What about Jesus being alive on this Earth as proof that his father does exist. Everything Jesus said was to bring Glory to his father. Divine Glory. And please don't say Jesus didn't exist, as it's been proven that did many times.
What about what Jesus talk to crowds about most of the time. And what did he talk about most of the time besides his father? Christ talked about having a moral conscience and that is something that just doesn't come into existence. You can also reference it with what Daniel said in chapter 6 verse 4 about what Jesus talked about. The fact that even morals exist in the first place and show you that God exists because if he didn't we would all be robots only design for the loss of the world and the universe it's ridiculous that people think otherwise when they just refuse to look at these things. Don't you think that's pretty ridiculous for people to just overlook stuff that's very obvious? Would not you agree that God is the one that wrote the moral code that you possess in your heart because how else would have wouldn't have come into existence without someone making it for you and nurturing it through the years for you?
Even if we go by science which is your Holy Grail, most scientist today would say that he exists. Now why do they say that? They say it because those few scientist that actually know he exists know that something cannot come from nothing and that the Universe and life itself is just too complex for it to have come from rock, lightning, or gravity which is very ridiculous. Since most of science is investigation in the first place, the way I can prove God exists is by looking at everything around me and assessing how did he get here, where did it come from, and by what did it come through. And since you are so big on science you should do the same thing too because I know you are a smart person and you have good reasoning even though it is flawed from not believing in what so obvious. And just work with me as I am sure, like you said, you want to know more and trust in God. Didn't mean to be angry at you, but when people denounce what you believe in so much, it makes you angry. But bless you and I hope he helps you see what's true.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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looter
Just because someone feels that faith is the absence of reason and rationality doesn't mean you have to disrespect it. Have you ever considered the possibility of a certain faith in being true or maybe all the people who lacked faith will be proven wrong someday. The truth is that we don't really know when it will happen but I will attest that I believe that one day God will let people feel the wrath of him physically on this Earth. The only time belief that actually deserves disrespect is when the faith in whatever is being malicious but all I'm doing and others on here are doing is letting people come to realize that we know God exists and that he wants us to be aware of him but not just us but everyone alive today. If only more people thought about this though.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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looter
Cofty that's not the issue here. The issue here is respecting those who have faith. I'm not falling for those brain washing questions.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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looter
Viviane, it was about faith. You feel that belief in God is wrong and totally stupid because you yourself don't believe God exists, right? And don't tell me you don't because if you didn't you wouldn't be constantly saying I'm a nutterball. Well belief in God and doctrines is faith in which you don't think is right so you feel it's gracious to treat me and anyone who has it like we're beneath you or something. This isn't dishonesty on my part as I've a firm believer and have no problem letting others know. You only say it's dishonest because you don't believe in God so stop saying I'm dishonest. Your failure to see that you are in fact a positivist with not even courtesy to respect another's belief that's not your own is astonishing.
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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?
by Formerbrother inis there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?
if they are not jws then who are they?.
who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.
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Formerbrother, you seem very confused but I'm here to help. Obviously, his true worshippers wouldn't be worshipping man such as yourself. You belong not to Jehovah but to a group of false sheep with no morals not even towards children. Island Man pointed it out well as the Lord's true sons would be people like myself who don't necessarily have a religion but have acquired deep spirituality without he helpings of another man-made entity. I still attend Church on special days and I know Lord is with me there to.
It might be wonderfully helpful to re-read Exodus chapter four as that can help those revitalize their beliefs. I love that chapter is it shows that God will use whatever it takes to give us happiness as he did to Moses here. And also don't forget to pray religiously because if you don't, you'll never be able to relax he way you were meant to. But most importantly, live everyday to bring out what Christ taught and to make him, the fathers and yourself happy. To many on this forum have let their faith dwindle so easily, which is depressing. It's understandable that this happened but they must try harder to get their faith back which is a lot of work but you must be humble and allow God's power among you.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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looter
Should I chuckle, Viviane? Did you really just say to have respectable beliefs in order to be respected? That just proves I wasn't dishonest in how you as so adiment that faith is wrong you don't have the ability to respect others faith even though it isn't wrong and isn't hurting you or anyone. You think it's wrong based on your own beliefs which is fine but when you treat others like myself like we are below you because we still believe in the bible, it just shows the type of person you are. You love to trample others on things you think are incorrect about them.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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looter
Beautiful, the positivist tells me I'm dishonest again when she evidently thinks nothing of God and because of that feels in the right to call others crazy. Viviane you are definitely a positivist because you clearly don't have the ability to think without that preconceived science philosophy. That makes sense because despite disagreeing with those who believe in the Lord such as myself, you can't even respect our beliefs even though you think it's wrong. What's worse is that other users promote that contempt along with you. That is what's truly "nutters". But this is the internet afterall, full of rudeness, so what should I expect? May God be with us all.