Posts by jonahstourguide

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So, here's a new definition of 'apostacy'

by ItsMyLife in

jw
friends

if you allow your child to have a part in the nativity play, it's apostacy.

even if the child just stands there, dressed as a an animal.

with no lines.. even if you've been inactive for several months.. talk about extremes and emotional blackmail!.

jonahstourguide

well, given the meaning of apostasy, the idea of the fictitional nativity play and participating therein,

goes against the "accepted" religious belief that you by default agree to when you used to be active

as it is construed in the above A word.

Become a member of any organisation and dont abide by their rules of association and

see what happens???? My point being where is the delineation between the jw and any other org.

I've been a lefty for many years, protesting against the wrongs of society. Join us and waver....

you is out. That is why it's so important for all to make people aware of what they are getting in to....

"read the constitution".

Thats my two bobs worth

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Generation continuing

by molybdenum in

this is what is written in the jan 2014 wt article .

let your kingdom comebut when?in his detailed prophecy about the conclusion of this system of things, jesus said: this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.

(read matthew 24:33-35.

jonahstourguide

I believe I have it !!!!

Awake 2013 Dec page 14.

The Painted Lady Butterfly migration takes 6 generations to complete

its annual round trip..... SEE,,,, overlapping generations on the one TRIP !!!!

(subliminal hint on what's coming)

btw, the actual university study on this was interesting. Professor Jane Hill University of York England

Also Richard Fox at Butterfly Conversation.

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How Jehovah's Witnesses benefit those humble enough to study the Bible with them.

by Stand for Pure Worship in

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friends

excellent material can be found within the reasoning book, page 328, para.2, 3. occasionally, i see posters make presumptuous comments like, "all you need is the bible", or, "i'm born-again, so there's no need for spiritual assistance from another christian", or,"i'm saved", or my favorite, "jesus talks to me directly.

" on one hand, i can't be overly critical of such ones because they do attempt to read and understand the bible on their own.

(acts 17:11) not to mention they're generally peaceable folks, just self-misguided when erroneously believing that they can go it alone.

jonahstourguide

Hey sfpw,

You got the no 3 talk this week ???

lol

time keeps on ticking into the future

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Ok, now I know why you atheists get so spittin' mad at some believers.

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

cuz they feel like they're banging their heads against a wall.. i don't really fall into the category of atheist or believer, but i'll go where the facts lead me.

that generally leads to atheism, and is why atheists end up getting mad and therefore rude at believers: they will lay out facts, raise questions, play devil's advocate, and reason in an evidence-based, structured way.

i've seen it many times before on this forum.

jonahstourguide

Thank you Phizzy

Great piece free of the in your face "I've got an axe to grind" crap

It is worth gold. I have waded through some of the references and

they sure are revealing.

This journey is informative and interesting.

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Ok, now I know why you atheists get so spittin' mad at some believers.

by Julia Orwell in

jw
friends

cuz they feel like they're banging their heads against a wall.. i don't really fall into the category of atheist or believer, but i'll go where the facts lead me.

that generally leads to atheism, and is why atheists end up getting mad and therefore rude at believers: they will lay out facts, raise questions, play devil's advocate, and reason in an evidence-based, structured way.

i've seen it many times before on this forum.

jonahstourguide

Jeffro, I am currently wading through all the cherry picking in wt publications.

I note that in your comment on the question in lf p 28 q 4 you only quote part of the

printed answer. Is that because you feel it is irrelevant or have the quotes in the lf brochure

been cherry picked. It is coincidental as I am currently pursuing these subjects at this time

seeing that, fortuitously, my "cognitive dissonance" is receding. I wanna prove or disprove

many things for myself.

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Nov 20, 2013 Letter to All Congregations (RE: Phillipines Disaster Relief)

by Gayle in

"however, it would be appreciated if such donations are made without restrictions as to where and how the funds may be used.

" additionally, at this time, there is no need for donations of food, clothing, or other items.

if such needs arise in the future, you will be notified accordingly.

jonahstourguide

As it was read this morning a pall of uneasiness filled the hall,,,you could feel it as

the bro reading it was shuffling on the spot obviously affected by the import of it

and I'm thinking which knucklehead reckons the poor basta$%s dont need stuff.

Like, how many no longerhave families etc. Well in oz "moments like these need minties"

Pigs Ar%e. someone needs a cracker up theirs....... I'm steaming,,,,

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Sept 15 Study Watchtower page 25 par 12. "According to one study"

by jonahstourguide in

for those who may be interested and wondering from where the " according to one study over.

forty percent..usw...." information is sourced.

its lifted from charles duhigg's 2012 book "a power of habit".

jonahstourguide

Thank you for those links jgnat, love the rider and the elephant analogy. Enjoyed the links.

I have this little being in my head that wakes up and says "oh? really?... where's the data?"

(although lately my little being isn't getting much sleep !)

Makes me a bit of a doubting Thomas but I think its helping me to form a happier

relationship with my elephant !!! lol

I agree with your "habituation to submission" comment as I am since recent times "back in"

and I see the process in action around me but I reckon those reminder articles that

I guess are part of the submission process, are subliminally directed at the elders

as it may well be recognised the reality of that "kindly care" often goes missing in action.

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Sept 15 Study Watchtower page 25 par 12. "According to one study"

by jonahstourguide in

for those who may be interested and wondering from where the " according to one study over.

forty percent..usw...." information is sourced.

its lifted from charles duhigg's 2012 book "a power of habit".

jonahstourguide

For those who may be interested and wondering from where the " According to one study over

forty percent..usw...." information is sourced. Its lifted from Charles Duhigg's 2012 book "A Power Of Habit"

He there makes reference to a study paper published in 2006 by the Duke University.

The paper, entitled " Habits--- A Repeat Performance" actually states that "approximately 45% ..usw......)

Actually I found it an interesting read. The paper also appeared in " CURRENT DIRECTIONS IN PSYCHOLOGICAL SCIENCE"

Vol 15 no 4 pages 198 through 202.

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Advise needed please

by EdenOne in

dear forumites, i need your advise please.. i would like to write a letter to the world headquarters of the jehovah's witnesses regarding a subject that i've published an article recently.

i would like to draw the attention of the gb to said article, which i will send in print form (therefore, no attention would be drawn to the website where it was published).. naturally, because i am a jehovah's witness in good standing in the congregation and what i'll be discussing in my letter will be a dissenting view from the official doctrine/practice, i want to protect my identity and i don't want to be harassed by elders or subjected to any sort of judicial investigation.

nevertheless, i would be very interested in reading their response (if any) to my letter.. how can i do that?

jonahstourguide

I wonder, if it came from a known studious publisher ( in the opinion of the local body) in a cong from another country with no apparent connection to yourself and with a reasonable standing in the cong???? Make letter available to said publisher and see what happens. Trouble is you are connected to your site via this forum so you gotta ask yourself,,,, would I rob a bank with this said person?

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Nov 2013 KM Question Box. Head coverings on Doorstep bible studies

by BroMac in

should a female publisher wear a headcovering if she is accompanied by a male publisher at a door step bible study?

when a female publisher conducts a regular ,scheduled bible study and a male kingdom publisher is present, she should wear a head covering.(1cor.

11:3-10)the july 15, 2002 issue of the watchtower, page 27, explains: this is a pre arranged session of teaching where the one conducting the study actually presides.

jonahstourguide

In the short time I've been here I must say how Impressed I am with the depth of

research many have and are doing, in and outside the WTS. The above KM article bemused me.

It's due for consideration tonight and I do recall how the matter caused confusion

years ago and continues to do so, apparently !

I am using the WT CD less for a couple of reasons;

The salient references for and against adopting a position on any topic are to be found on this site.

A wide range of views on a topic can be considered to reach a view that I'm comfortable with.

And I get to have a good laugh to boot !!!!!!!

The light does get brighter!!!!!!

Thank you