jonahstourguide would love a visit from kermit please.
Carton of the best Australian beer on offer
jtg.
And Thankyou for your hard work Petra and crew.
jonahstourguide
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Kermit Is Delivering Documents!
by Atlantis inkermit is delivering documents with his kermit chopper.. https://docdro.id/a01tdj0.
if you are on the receive list these documents are already in your email.. .
if your not on the list, then reply below that you want kermit to swing by your place, and drop off a copy in your pm box.. .
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Victorian Govt on the move toward institutions that don't sign up to the Redress scheme.
by jonahstourguide inhi all.. just spotted this news item in melbourne:.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-19/vic-govt-threatens-cut-off-orgs-dont-sign-up-to-redress-scheme/12161886.
victoria to blacklist institutions that fail to sign up to national redress scheme for sexual abuseposted about 7 hours ago a black and white photo of girls in a boarding home.photo: the national redress scheme was a key recommendation of the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.
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jonahstourguide
Hi all.
Just spotted this news item in Melbourne:
Victoria to blacklist institutions that fail to sign up to National Redress Scheme for sexual abuse
Posted about 7 hours ago
A black and white photo of girls in a boarding home.
PHOTO: The National Redress Scheme was a key recommendation of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. (Supplied.)
RELATED STORY: How the national redress scheme will roll out on SundayRELATED STORY: Physical abuse survivors forgotten under national redress scheme, campaigner saysRELATED STORY: Government accepts 104 royal commission recommendations, including confession rule
The Victorian Government is threatening to deny funding to organisations that fail to join the National Redress Scheme for institutional child sexual abuse survivors by the June 30 deadline.
Key points:
The Government will make it a condition of contracts that eligible organisations sign up to the scheme
About half of the 49 organisations that have failed to sign up in Victoria receive State Government funding
The blacklisting will only affect future arrangements
Under the scheme, eligible survivors of institutional child sexual abuse are able to seek a range of redress options including monetary payments of up to $150,000, access to counselling services and a direct personal response — such as an apology — from the institutions responsible.
Forty-nine eligible non-government organisations operating in Victoria are still yet to sign up to the scheme, about half of which receive some form of State Government funding.
They include non-government schools, community, youth and family services, religious entities and sport and recreation entities.
Nationally, there are more than 500 applications on hold because the institution named in the application is not yet participating in the scheme.
Failure of organisations to join scheme 'deeply disappointing'
Victorian Attorney-General Jill Hennessy said refusing to sign up was "just not acceptable".
"We will be making it a condition of contracts with the Victorian Government that institutions that have got a liability when it comes to institutional sexual abuse join the redress scheme," Ms Hennessy said.
A woman with fair hair in a black top with a colourful pattern.
PHOTO: Victorian Attorney-General Jill Hennessy says the State Government will not reward organisations that fail to take responsibility for their history of sexual abuse. (ABC News: Andrew Ware)
Ms Hennessy said funding in jeopardy included grants and funding to deliver social or other services. She made it clear that the blacklisting would only affect new funding arrangements.
"This is about organisations which do have the capacity to pay but have not taken the responsibility," she said.
"We're not going to go and disrupt the way in which services are delivered, particularly to vulnerable people, but we are not going to reward those that have got the capacity to pay but fail to finally take responsibility for the tawdry and tragic history of sexual abuse in their organisations."
Me Hennessy said it was "deeply disappointing" that organisations which had the capacity to join the scheme and had ample time had not done so.
"We know people are dying waiting for fair compensation for the horrific abuse and injustice they have faced," she said.
"With these changes, we are ensuring institutions are held accountable for failing in their moral duty to support and acknowledge their victims."
The scheme was a key recommendation of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse and was established in 2018.
It is intended to provide compensation for institutional child sexual abuse survivors and be an alternative to civil litigation, requiring victims to provide less supporting information than to a court.
Under the Commonwealth legislation, joining the scheme is voluntary. Institutions can only join if they can fulfil their obligations under the legislation, including the financial capacity to pay redress.
The Federal Government earlier this year flagged measures such as stripping organisations of their charitable status for tax if they did not join the scheme.jtg
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Find the Beatles Songs in the Picture
by Simon insome light entertainment ... there are apparently 39 beatles songs hidden in the picture, but depending on how to interpret some of them you may come up with more.. please post one each, to give everyone a go, and describe where the song is in the picture (so it's not just coming up with a list of beatles songs).
also, check for existing answers - i'll post summaries to show the ones already identified.. .
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jonahstourguide
Yes NCC-1701.
However I mustn't post again, in fairness.
jtg
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Find the Beatles Songs in the Picture
by Simon insome light entertainment ... there are apparently 39 beatles songs hidden in the picture, but depending on how to interpret some of them you may come up with more.. please post one each, to give everyone a go, and describe where the song is in the picture (so it's not just coming up with a list of beatles songs).
also, check for existing answers - i'll post summaries to show the ones already identified.. .
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jonahstourguide
Ok,how about "fixing a hole where the rain gets in" and "filling the cracks in the door"?? From the same song.
Sgt Peppers album
jtg
Oops sorry realised second post Sorry got a bit excited
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Find the Beatles Songs in the Picture
by Simon insome light entertainment ... there are apparently 39 beatles songs hidden in the picture, but depending on how to interpret some of them you may come up with more.. please post one each, to give everyone a go, and describe where the song is in the picture (so it's not just coming up with a list of beatles songs).
also, check for existing answers - i'll post summaries to show the ones already identified.. .
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jonahstourguide
Could the bees and flowers be Eleanor Rigby ? For rent signifying her spot in the church was vacant? Except she was buried along with her name and nobody came !?
However, I'm enjoying this,,
jtg
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Just got a letter from a local JW
by wozza ina local brother has called on me 3 times in the last few months and has just sent me a letter ,.
in the previous calls we kept it simple : i have'nt been to meetings for years ,don't believe in god now ,etc.
touched on how i was appalled at how the org handles child molestation and they were quick to say that there have been problems but the governing body has it handled now blah blah.
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jonahstourguide
Hey wozza,
The jaydubs in Melbourne in my area are phoning random numbers of the public in the phone book and also sending similar messages via mail to all that used to attend over the years.
The local field circus overseer distributes numbers that he has selected from the white pages to the rank and file to call.
The eldubs have been instructed to go through all records to track inactive ones and invite them to zoom into the meetings.
And, yes, a perfect time to reveal the real truth in return mail to the senders' address.
jtg
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Covid 19, is this the WT new push to bring back ex JW's before the end of the system?
by William Penwell innot sure if this was covered as i could not find anything on it but talking to my son he tells me one of the gb had a talk telling them this is a sign of the last days.
have the jw's being pressured into talking to relatives and friends to bring them back into the fold before the end of the system blah blah blah?
the reason why i ask is my son was saying his mother has being on his case the last few weeks and then two days ago i got a telephone message from my sister, that hasn't spoke to me in 4 years, asking how i am doing.
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jonahstourguide
Yes, William Penwell.
The elders have been instructed to search out all 'inactive' or 'faded' ones in their territory whichever way they can for the memorial and generally as well.
At least that's the situation here in Australia. Where I live , elders are asking if anyone knows of "inactive" ones they could contract due to the last days of the last days.
Brings back memories of 1975.
jtg
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Cardinal George Pell Acquitted Of Child sex Abuse !
by smiddy3 incardinal george pell the australian catholic who was the 3rd most senior person in the vatican was acquitted by the high court of australia of all sex charges against him this morning.. after serving about 400 days behind bars he is now free to walk out of jail, to the shock of many.. this should make news headlines all around the world judging by past experience..
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jonahstourguide
Yes smiddy3,
Ridsdale was in everybody's vocabulary in my area as the catholic school boys used to tell us about his antics.
jtg
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Cardinal George Pell Acquitted Of Child sex Abuse !
by smiddy3 incardinal george pell the australian catholic who was the 3rd most senior person in the vatican was acquitted by the high court of australia of all sex charges against him this morning.. after serving about 400 days behind bars he is now free to walk out of jail, to the shock of many.. this should make news headlines all around the world judging by past experience..
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jonahstourguide
Exactly cofty.
I've been following the whole case with interest as i personally am also anti pell. However, I do know guys that were abused by other catholic priests at schools and churches in my locality when I was attending public schools nearby. It seems Pell was made to be the scapegoat for the churches failings in this matter.
However, it is sad that humans with these abhorrent memories, no matter who the perpetrator was, are scarred for life.
I spend some time with those I know and we seek peace for their thought processes.
jtg
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Cardinal George Pell Acquitted Of Child sex Abuse !
by smiddy3 incardinal george pell the australian catholic who was the 3rd most senior person in the vatican was acquitted by the high court of australia of all sex charges against him this morning.. after serving about 400 days behind bars he is now free to walk out of jail, to the shock of many.. this should make news headlines all around the world judging by past experience..
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jonahstourguide
Hi All
Here are the High courts reasons.
Pell v The Queen — [2020] HCA 12
Today, the High Court granted special leave to appeal against a decision of the Court of Appeal of the Supreme Court of Victoria and unanimously allowed the appeal.
The High Court found that the jury, acting rationally on the whole of the evidence, ought to have entertained a doubt as to the applicant's guilt with respect to each of the offences for which he was convicted, and ordered that the convictions be quashed and that verdicts of acquittal be entered in their place.
On 11 December 2018, following a trial by jury in the County Court of Victoria, the applicant, who was Archbishop of Melbourne at the time of the alleged offending, was convicted of one charge of sexual penetration of a child under 16 years and four charges of committing an act of indecency with or in the presence of a child under the age of 16 years.
This was the second trial of these charges, the jury at the first trial having been unable to agree on its verdicts.
The prosecution case, as it was left to the jury, alleged that the offending occurred on two separate occasions, the first on 15 or 22 December 1996 and the second on 23 February 1997.
The incidents were alleged to have occurred in and near the priests' sacristy at St Patrick's Cathedral in East Melbourne, following the celebration of Sunday solemn Mass.
The victims of the alleged offending were two Cathedral choirboys aged 13 years at the time of the events.
The applicant sought leave to appeal against his convictions before the Court of Appeal. On 21 August 2019 the Court of Appeal granted leave on a single ground, which contended that the verdicts were unreasonable or could not be supported by the evidence, and dismissed the appeal.
The Court of Appeal viewed video-recordings of a number of witnesses' testimony, including that of the complainant.
The majority, Ferguson CJ and Maxwell P, assessed the complainant to be a compelling witness.
Their Honours went on to consider the evidence of a number of "opportunity witnesses", who had described the movements of the applicant and others following the conclusion of Sunday solemn Mass in a way that was inconsistent with the complainant's account.
Their Honours found that no witness could say with certainty that these routines and practices were never departed from and concluded that the jury had not been compelled to entertain a reasonable doubt as to the applicant's guilt.
Weinberg JA dissented, concluding that, by reason of the unchallenged evidence of the opportunity witnesses, the jury, acting rationally on the whole of the evidence, ought to have had a reasonable doubt.
On 17 September 2019, the applicant applied to the High Court for special leave to appeal from the Court of Appeal's decision on two grounds.
On 13 November 2019, Gordon and Edelman JJ referred the application for special leave to a Full Court of the High Court for argument as on an appeal.
The application was heard by the High Court on 11 and 12 March 2020.
The High Court considered that, while the Court of Appeal majority assessed the evidence of the opportunity witnesses as leaving open the possibility that the complainant's account was correct, their Honours' analysis failed to engage with the question of whether there remained a reasonable possibility that the offending had not taken place, such that there ought to have been a reasonable doubt as to the applicant's guilt.
The unchallenged evidence of the opportunity witnesses was inconsistent with the complainant's account, and described: (i) the applicant's practice of greeting congregants on or near the Cathedral steps after Sunday solemn Mass; (ii) the established and historical Catholic church practice that required that the applicant, as an archbishop, always be accompanied when robed in the Cathedral; and (iii) the continuous traffic in and out of the priests' sacristy for ten to 15 minutes after the conclusion of the procession that ended Sunday solemn Mass.
The Court held that, on the assumption that the jury had assessed the complainant's evidence as thoroughly credible and reliable, the evidence of the opportunity witnesses nonetheless required the jury, acting rationally, to have entertained a reasonable doubt as to the applicant's guilt in relation to the offences involved in both alleged incidents.
With respect to each of the applicant's convictions, there was, consistently with the words the Court used in Chidiac v The Queen (1991) 171 CLR 432 at 444 and M v The Queen (1994) 181 CLR 487 at 494, "a significant possibility that an innocent person has been convicted because the evidence did not establish guilt to the requisite standard of proof".jtg