hi folks,.
this interesting article on abc australia covers views of people ex-communicated or shunned by a couple of institutions.
it also includes paul grundy's experience.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-25/the-australians-who-were-cast-out-of-their-religions/100306930.
Hi Folks,
This interesting article on ABC Australia covers views of people ex-communicated or shunned by a couple of institutions. It also includes Paul Grundy's experience.
The article didn't look too good when I tried a cut and paste. The formatting was all over the shop. So I've just put up the link.
There is life after shunning albeit a little difficult at some times.
jtg
since this pandemic, especially, are witnesses fine with never having to go to another meeting or assembly again?
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@ElderStuckin.
Same here in Australia and same info to co's and confirmation kingdom halls not to be used at all..
jtg
P.S. Added. Yes the local jw's are loving every minute of free time and are hating even the thought of perhaps returning. However, stupidly enough, they are still referring to the farcical zoom field service meetings as witnessing........Hilarious.
so since the cult is not printing like they once did and are going video and digital, do you think they will be sending the inner cult member's home at the different bethels?.
Yes.
And, based on borg update six, I'd say non vaccinated ones will be first to go "to where the need is greater"
jtg
did you ever give a talk and made that point?.
growing up i had the opportunity to live for a while in a farm like place with all kinds of animals.. mom and dad always taught us kids early, what to watch for because there were dangerous animals and insects roaming around.. snakes, black widows, brown recluse spiders, and so on.. there were times when i would just sit by this huge tree and wonder why jah would make all these animals that were dangerous, and hard to see, until it was too late.
like the black widow spider.
Brilliant piece.
jtg
news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
Was it this truth-b-known ?
jtg
irwin zalkin is in todays news in the bsa molestation settlement.
it says he has 150 clients and he was not happy with out come.
it was a ap story.
Found this mate.
NEW YORK – An $850 million settlement by the Boy Scouts of America to compensate sex-abuse victims prompted outrage on Friday from some survivors and their advocates, while others were encouraged and seen as the best outcome. which could have been achieved under the circumstances.
The settlement, filed in court late Thursday as a step toward resolving a complicated bankruptcy case, includes BSA national leadership, abuse victims, local Boy Scout councils and lawyers appointed to represent victims who will file future claims. can do.
Lawyer Tim Kosnoff, whose Abused In Scouting legal team says it is representing thousands of clients, called it “a lousy deal – selling thousands of brave men” because it contributed large portions of its unrestricted assets to local councils not pressured to do so.
Chris Anderson, a Southern California accountant who says he was abused by a Boy Scout troop leader for more than three years in the 1970s, spoke about the lack of details about the council’s finances. Complained.
“It’s a farce,” he told the Associated Press. “There is no certainty for the victims.”
However, some lawyers representing the survivors welcomed the settlement as the best that could be achieved. He noted that negotiations with insurers of the Boy Scouts have yet to be resolved, which could potentially need to contribute billions of dollars to the compensation fund.
“This is just the tip of the iceberg,” said attorney Ken Rothweiler, whose firm says it is representing more than 16,000 survivors. “Now we go after the next step and see what happens with insurers. “
The BSA sought protection from bankruptcy in February 2020, moving to prevent thousands of lawsuits by men who had been molested as youth by Scoutmasters or other leaders decades earlier. The filing was intended to attempt to reach a global resolution of abuse claims and create a compensation fund.
Richard Mason, an attorney and chairman of an ad-hoc committee representing local councils in the case, said this week’s reorganization agreement is the result of hard-fought negotiations and that plaintiffs’ lawyers “pushed too hard.”
Mason, who is also the chairman of the BSA’s Greater New York Council, said councils are contributing “the most that is achievable”.
Irwin Zalkin, whose law firm represents about 150 survivors, warned against reading too much into the agreement, noting that many questions remain unanswered.
These include what percentage of local councils they deserve will contribute; what, if anything, local sponsoring organizations such as churches and civic groups can contribute; And how much will be set aside to cover future claims.
“I think it’s an absurdity to issue a media release to the victims saying they’ve reached a settlement for $850 million, especially because of the way they’re doing a victory dance about it.” are,” he said. “To me, I just find it reprehensible.”
Lawyer Paul Mons, who represents hundreds of abuse victims and supports the reorganization agreement, said the plaintiffs’ lawyers pushed the BSA and local councils as far as they could.
“We believe this is the best that could have been done,” he said, acknowledging that abuse survivors could still vote to decline the agreement.
Zalkin and other critics note that the councils have more than $1.8 billion in unrestricted assets, but are contributing only $600 million to the victims’ fund. Mons pointed out, however, that many council properties have land-use or donor restrictions, making them unavailable to compensate abuse victims.
Mons said that no matter how much the BSA and local councils contribute or how much insurance companies may be forced to pay, no amount can compensate abuse victims for their suffering.
“It’s not a victory for anyone,” he said. “We’re dealing with these people’s lives after a disaster, and we’re trying to make things back with whatever raw materials we have left.”
The Associated Press contacted several local Scout councils across the US on Friday. Most of the leaders who responded said they did not yet know whether they would be asked to contribute and hoped they would not have to sell valuable properties such as camps.
Doug Stone of the Indian Waters Council in South Carolina said he would not have to sell his camp or any other property.
“We own Camp Barstow outright,” he said. “We’re not going to put a mortgage on it. We’re not going to sell it. It’s going to stay.”
However, Roger Mosby, BSA’s president and CEO, told the AP earlier this week that some councils will be faced with “a difficult and often emotional decision” regarding the sale of the camp.
Some councils have already taken steps in this direction.
The Greater Hudson Valley Council, which serves several counties near New York City, put three of its camps up for sale earlier this year as part of its obligation to fund. The largest is Durland Scout Reservation, a 1,385-acre property in the Putnam Valley that includes two lakes.
Another is Camp Bulova in Stony Point, where a local official has inquired whether the city can purchase it and retain it for scouting and other entertainment.
In Maine, the Pine Tree Council has proposed selling two campsites to raise money for the fund, according to the Kennebec Journal. The council did not immediately respond to emails and phone messages for updates on Friday.
The BSA praised the agreement in a statement on Friday, saying it would help local councils contribute “without an additional drain on their assets”.
“There is still a lot to be done to get approval from the court to urge the survivors to vote for the revised plan of restructuring the BSA,” it said. “We intend to confirm the plan this summer and emerge from bankruptcy later this year.”
Membership in the BSA has declined sharply since 2019, from more than 1.9 million Scouts across its two major programs to less than 770,000.
From Nation World News
jtg
has anyone heard this?
ive been told multiple ex jws have confirmed it but no one seems to kow their names so im still skeptical..
Oh, Clarification.
Werribee in Victoria is the site of a sewerage treatment plant!
jtg
has anyone heard this?
ive been told multiple ex jws have confirmed it but no one seems to kow their names so im still skeptical..
An update.
Seems the couple are deeper in the shit than a Werribee duck.
The Melbourne duo who sparked a Covid-19 scare after travelling to the Sunshine State have copped another fine for a stop they made along the way.
James HallNCA NewsWireJune 25, 20213:47pmThe couple who left Melbourne during the city’s lockdown and drove into Queensland before testing positive to Covid-19 have been slapped with another fine.
The duo travelled through NSW and on to the Sunshine Coast earlier this month without a travel exemption, putting the state on high alert of a potentially deadly outbreak.
Last Friday, Queensland authorities issued the pair with a $4000 fine each and the NSW counterparts have now compounded the punishment, slapping the pair with a fine for breaching a state public health order.
NSW Police confirmed on Friday the couple had each been issued a fine of $1000 for visiting a cinema on their journey through the state, which is deemed as non-essential.
Other stops the couple made as they travelled on the Newell Highway were deemed essential, including visits to retail stores, food outlets and service stations.
“The pair also attended a cinema on Macquarie Street, Dubbo, on Wednesday 2 June 2021, which is deemed non-essential activity under the Public Health Act,” NSW Police said.
The pair were first fined in Queensland and now again in NSW. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Simon DallingerSource:News Corp Australia
The pair were reported to have spent several days in regional NSW before reaching Queensland, where they were moving interstate, on June 5.
The 44-year-old woman tested positive in Caloundra on June 8, almost a week after she first developed symptoms, while her partner was confirmed as a new case soon after.
The woman and her husband left Victoria on June 1 after a hard lockdown was announced and travelled through regional Queensland centres Goondiwindi and Toowoomba.
Dr Young revealed earlier this month the two were not given a travel exemption. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Dan PeledSource:News Corp Australia
Initially, authorities reserved judgment on the pair but Queensland chief health officer Dr Jeannette Young revealed soon after the infections were reported that her department had not given the couple permission to forego strict directives.
“No, they didn’t come through the exemption process, so it’s now up to police to investigate whether they came through any other process,” she said.
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The couple were both transported to Sunshine Coast University Hospital to be quarantined, while 17 close contacts of the pair were identified, including the family members they were staying with in Caloundra.
The other 15 were at venues at the same time as the couple as they travelled into the state.
End of Article.
And yes, It's confirmed among elders in Victoria and Queensland. They are jws although not as regular attendees as most. One elder stated "They've given us a headache".
jtg
has anyone heard this?
ive been told multiple ex jws have confirmed it but no one seems to kow their names so im still skeptical..
@ zachias
By state political reporter Rachel Riga
Posted 4ddays ago, updated 4ddays agoABC News: Tim Swanston
)ShareQueensland police have fined a Melbourne couple who tested positive to COVID-19 on the Sunshine Coast more than $4,000 each for allegedly lying on their border declaration passes.
The couple allegedly travelled to Queensland via Goondiwindi on June 5 after having been in Victoria.
The pair entered the state when the Victorian capital was in lockdown.
Police allege the pair deliberately provided false information to obtain a Queensland border declaration pass.
Authorities were later alerted to the pair after the woman, 44, tested positive to coronavirus on June 9, sparking a major contact tracing effort across south-east Queensland.
The man, 48, also tested positive the following day.
The pair were interviewed by police after being released from hospital, where they were undergoing treatment for COVID-19.
They were each issued with a $4,003 fine for failing to comply with a COVID-19 border direction.
abc news online
jtg
honda vfr 750.
More recently, in a Lotus Seven replica (Birkin) 1.6 litre toyota twin cam engine,.Bruce highway Sunshine Coast (Oz).
With a little help from Nos direct port injection. Actually clocked 250k.
However, back in the seventies just before armageddon in a 1964 EH Holden with a tricked up engine including triple 2 inch S.U. carbies. 122 mph working off the tacho. Poor old speedo's were pretty unreliable in dem days. And THAT was the FIRST time.
jtg
