Got to admit this was a really weird section of the article. I do not agree with it at all. I have a brain.
thedog1
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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thedog1
Billy, a severely incapacitated person maybe should be able to accept help from the cong, but in this case the relatives did not need the help, and the cong had been helpful in multiple ways, visiting, and giving all sorts of material and emotional support. The cong was not shirking its duty at all. Wearewatching youman, apology accepted. Personally, I have never encouraged anyone to put themselves in a situation where they are in the situation your grandmother is in. I understand you are in a difficult situation in trying to do the best you can for someone who has in a sense painted themselves into a corner by their own behaviour. I believe in providing for ourselves and not burdening others. I have met many pioneers who think others in the cong owe them a living because of the sacrifices they have made to pioneer. I do not agree with that at all. It is unfair if others have to pick up the pieces for the irresponsible behaviour of those who feel they are doing God's will but expecting others to pick up the tab. So in a sense we are on the same side. I always advise people to think before they make decisions which may end up in others having to support them just because they think they have some divine commission to do something. So in some ways we are on the same side.
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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thedog1
maybe I was too direct in my statement. In our own cong it was discussed with the co that if somebody was in need and family and gov organ. could not help that the congregation would step in. This was, as you mentioned quoting scripture, to be as a last resort. We had a case recently where a family were in a bad situation, as they could not meet rental payments and the bro in question had not gotten a promised pension. This bro came to the elders for help. It turned out that his wife's family owned a piece of land that she could sell to buy a derelict house in our territory. The money she got from the sale only barely covered the purchase of the house, so the local bros donated huge amounts of time and effort, and paid for the materials to refurbish the house out of their own pockets. Now this family have their own home due to the generosity of the local bros. This same family were often given bags of food or prepared meals by the local bros many times after the meetings.
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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thedog1
that should be criticism and disrespect
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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thedog1
Well guys, I have no objection to responding to critcism of my posts, but in my book, effing and so on is the height of disrepect, so not going to respond to wearewatchingyouman's post. If he or she cannot respond without resorting to profanity, well...
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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thedog1
Care of elderly relatives should be the responsibility of their children or the state if there is any provision for that. Full stop. Not the congregation. We recently had a case where an extremely incapacitated sister requested financial aid from the congregation. She even ended up at a hospital where the staff contacted the branch to ask why the local bros were not looking after her. We don't know what she said to the hospital staff but they got the impression that the local Witnesses had not supported her. Nothing could be further from the truth. The local bros and sis had done so much for her without seeking any recognition, acting as true Christians. Maybe she has a screw loose, I don't know. The local cong had to write to the branch to assure them that we had done everything possible for this sister, and even her non-Witness relatives acknowledged that the bros had done a lot and they did not need any financial help to care for her needs. Another thread on here wondered if there are any 'real' JW apologists on here. I am not an apologist. I just say it as I see it. But as I stated before , I am for real and I am a serving elder.
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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thedog1
16 Out of affection for beloved older ones, some Christians have volunteered their time and energy to meet whatever needs they reasonably can. They make it a point to show extra interest in older members of the congregation. Some volunteers divide the tasks with others in the congregation and care for older ones on a rotation basis. While realizing that their own circumstances do not allow them to engage in the full-time ministry, they are happy to assist the children to remain in their chosen careers as long as possible. What an excellent spirit such brothers show! Of course, their generosity does not relieve children of the responsibility to do what they can for their parents.
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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thedog1
11 Consider, for example, the case of two fleshly brothers who served far from home. One was a missionary in South America, the other worked at world headquarters, in Brooklyn, New York. The brothers’ elderly parents needed help. The sons and their wives visited the parents in the Far East to see what help could best be provided and how. In time, the couple in South America were weighing leaving their assignment to return home. Then they received a telephone call from the coordinator of the body of elders in the parents’ congregation. Those elders had discussed the situation and wanted the missionaries to continue in their assignment as long as possible. The elders appreciated this couple’s service and were determined to do all they could to help them care for their parents. All in the family appreciated the loving concern.
12. What should be the concern of a Christian family regarding any caregiving decision that they make?
12 Whatever strategy a Christian family adopts to care for the needs of elderly parents, all concerned will certainly want to make sure that it reflects well on God’s name. Never would we want to be like the religious leaders in Jesus’ day. (Matt. 15:3-6) We want our decisions to honor God and the congregation.—2 Cor. 6:3.
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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thedog1
Full-time servants whose theocratic assignments have taken them far from home may face particularly difficult decisions. Those serving as Bethelites, missionaries, and traveling overseers all view their assignment as precious, as a blessing from Jehovah. Still, if their parents get sick, the first reaction might be, ‘We need to leave our assignment and return home to look after our parents.’ Yet, it would be wise to consider prayerfully whether that is what the parents really need or desire. No one should hastily give up service privileges, and it may not always be necessary. Could the health issue be temporary, one with which some in the parents’ congregation would be happy to help?
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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thedog1
8 Simply put, adult Christian children have an obligation to make sure that their parents’ material needs are met. Paul was discussing believing relatives, but parents who are not members of the Christian congregation should not be neglected. Exactly how children provide care varies. No two situations are alike. The needs, temperament, and health of those involved differ. Some older ones have many children; others just one child. Some can count on support from the State; others cannot. Personal preferences of those needing care also differ. Thus, it would not be wise or loving to criticize the way in which someone is trying to care for aged relative