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  Full 2015 Annual Meeting Program

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plrw9u-n1z2m8peenfmbdxmvbdkum0ce1n.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uppgsfl6o5k.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9j8ivkmkvk.

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  Syme

  @DATA-DOG: LOL man!
  
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  Why do people kill each other?

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  why do there have to be wars?

  why is there so much hatred?.

  the collective answer i came up with is natalisam, or maybe the correct word should be politics?

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  Syme

  Archaeology and paleoanthropology show that violence was much more prevalent in prehistorical bands and groups, than it is today. Violence between rival bands is also very often in some our closest relatives today, the chimpanzees.

  When the first archaic members of Homo sapiens set foot into a new territory, one of the first things they did was exploit to the point of extinction many other species of animals and plants, including other hominids, and even other human rival tribes. That was the rule back then. (and yes, man-caused extinction is a really old habit.)
  

  The "noble savage" notion of Rousseau has been proven today to be a total myth.
  

  Organized society still holds to many injustices and has not stopped wars and violence worldwide; still, in general it is a lot safer world (and time) to live, than living in pre-organized times and places. (This doesn't guarantee, of course, that things will get even better in the future; study of the past indicates, it doesn't prophesy.)

  The evidence indicates that while peace-keeping and altruism are part of our nature when it comes to a tightly tied group like a family, when it comes to relations between groups, violence is our natural tendency. The point of having superior intelligence to other animals is to be able to overcome those bad traits of our nature.
  
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  When did the Watchtower start opposing evolution with respect to animals?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the photo-drama of creation (1912) says that god directed the evolution of animals into their current "fixed" forms, but that humans were created directed.

  the divine plan of the ages said the same thing.

  (various editions late 1800s to early 1900s) the 1898 booklet on evolution opposes the evolution of man but doesn't discuss animal evolution.

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  Syme

  WT literature even up 70s or 80s refers to evolution as a tool of Satan. But since the latest literature accepts the so-called "microevolution", that begs the question (for j-dubs): If microevolution is true, then it is a part of Creation, i.e. a tool of Jehovah. How can microevolution be a tool of Jehovah, and macroevolution a tool of Satan, since it's the same process, just in different time scales?
  

  Even from Russell days, evolution was thought anti-biblical (it is, of course; it's just that Genesis happens to be a total myth). The Bible Students were just a mixing of Adventist and other fundamentalist US-based Christian groups; all those groups had always been creationists and anti-science in general.

  Side note: the 49,000 years theology of JWs does not differ that much from the literal 7-day theology of young-earth creationists. In the scope of geological time (4.6 billion years), 49,000 years and 7 days are roughly the same, the same absurd, at least. And, basically, the WTS hasn't dropped officially the 49,000 years theology, even to this day (last time I checked). An average thinking person can surmise just from that what kind of loony teachings we're talking about.
  
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  We missed you at the meetings

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a vomit inducing comment.. i asked why do they have to specify 'meetings'?

  they never miss us in tesco or the showcase cinema bar.. in their defence, a friend of mine said: 'that's because the meeting is where they normally would see you.'.

  well, if they want to see you they can arrange a meal out or something.

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  Syme

  I agree. That's one of the disadvantages of fading, instead of DA: they feel sorry for you, they have no idea of the real reasons, and since you can't speak openly to them and explain, they assume some lame reason for your not going to the meetings, like stumbling or being weak/discouraged etc.

  Of course, if you DA, they'll not feel sorry or view you as weak, but will view you as Satan incarnate. Either way, it's a win-win situation for their delusional state of being (for the majority of them of course, not all). In other words, they will either pity you (fade) or fear and loathe you (DA).
  
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  Earliest Life on Earth Pushed Back Another 300 Million Years

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  researchers have found evidence of ancient microorganisms that lived in what is now western australia at least 4.1 billion years ago.

  if confirmed, the discovery suggests that life originated on earth 300 million years earlier than previously thought.

  .... the ancient microorganisms in question were found trapped inside zircons formed from magma in western australia.

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  Syme

  Very interesting link, cofty.

  Creationists: "Hey, see? Now scientists say that life appeared instantaneously after the Earth's formation! Isn't that proof that God created life in an instant, just after creating the Earth? Checkmate, evolutionists!"
  
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  Police: Teen killed in N.Y. church assault wanted out

  by KiddingMe in

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  2. current

  http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/us/new-york-church-assault-case/index.html.

  police: teen killed in n.y. church assault wanted out.

  by ray sanchez, cnn.

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  Guys, no offense, but I'm afraid the US is one of the most unsafe and dangerous places to live, lately. Be careful, all who live there.
  
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  Did an EX-JW wake you up to TTATT or did you put the effort to wake up yourself?

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  how many of us were woken up by some apostate yelling false prophets at a convention?.

  how many of us were woken up by someone holding a sign and yelling, what happened to 1975.

  how many of us were coerced to investigate the wt because some ex-jw pulled up a bunch of old watchtowers magazines and told us to read the false predictions?.

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  Syme

  I woke up by reading about evolution. By seeing the solid evidence for evolution, the next logical step was the realization that WT doctrine (Adam --> Jesus as ransom equal to Adam --> eternal life due to ransom) was fundamentally wrong.

  Reading of Ray Franz and ex-JWs on the Internet came later.
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  Two Detectives Observing A J.W. Meeting.

  by smiddy in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  woody harrelson and mathew mcconaughey { standing at the back of the k..h..during a meeting }.

  w.h.. "what do you know about these people " { who get their higher education reading and studying the watchtower and awake magazines} ?.

  "just observation and deduction , i see propensity for obesity , poverty, a yen for fairy tales , folks putting what few bucks they do have into contribution boxes .. i think it`s safe to say that nobody here is going to be splitting the atom.

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  Syme

  Indeed! And of course the opening line of the scene, by McConaughey: "What do you think is the average IQ of these people here?"
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  Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.

  yesterday i went for the co's last talks.

  older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.

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  Syme

  Absolutely shocking.

  I guess that the fact that I'm 8 months clean of hearing such BS, made me to be easily shocked on hearing this cultish stuff again, like I wasn't hearing it for 30 years.
  
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  "Imitate Jehovah" CA Actually Didn't Have That Theme At All

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just got back from "imitate jehovah" ca and noticed that the theme was never really used at all.

  all the talks were about family, preaching and getting along with others in the hall.

  they didn't once go over an account of how jehovah acted in the past and how we should imitate that action.

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  What the assembly program should be like, if jw's were serious about about doing what the theme says.
  

  "Imitate Jehovah" - How? (literally)

  -Kill 70,000 people in random because a friend of yours ordered a wrong census

  -Kill all the innocent firstborns of a whole nation, because their leader messed with you

  -Stone (or burn) anyone who breaks a little bit of your Law.

  -Kill all homosexuals.
  

  -Wipe off the face of the earth seven (7) nations, including women, children and poor cattle, because they dare to live for centuries in the land you want to conquer

  -Slaughter some dozens of children using wild BEARS, because they said "go on, bald" to a *bald* friend of yours

  -Demand the ritual slaughter of countless animals as a sacrifice, from every family in a whole nation, every day, for a period of a thousand years (imagine the number).

  The list could go on, but then it would have to be a 30-day assembly.