Posts by baldeagle

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"This Generation" at the meeting today

by Batman89 in

it was really quite amusing 2day at the meeting when we got to the "this generation will not pass away" subheading in the wt.

the conductor spent very little time on the section and the comments that were given didnt at all make sense really.

you can tell its not understood by the majority of the friendsand will go over there heads, i was trying not to laugh lol.

baldeagle

I thought this conversation was worth repeating on this WT subject especially. On another post regarding this subject a member here, OwnAccord referred to a discussion someone had over a phone call to Bethel in NY regarding the “overlapping generation.” The brother at Bethel provided the following information as an explanation. I think this is noteworthy since this question must be phoned in often, and the brothers likely are prepared with a scripted answer.

Bethel Representative Reply:

He said there are actually 3 GROUPS of anointed ones. Two groups make up "this generation." They are the 1914 older anointed ones, and the contemporaries that OVERLAP the 1914 anointed older group. The 3rd anointed group, are TRUELY ANOINTED ONES, but, they are NOT included in the "this generation'' group.

Bethel brother continues, what determines an anointed one being of the OLDER 1914 ANOINTED GROUP, is they were ANOINTED at the MOMENT of "THEIR BAPTISM" – NO LATER THAN OCTOBER 1, 1914. The brother said, “A perfect example would be Brother Fred Franz of the Governing Body.”

Fred Franz (1st group) was born in 1893. He was baptized in 1913 one year before 1914 and therefore anointed at the age of 20. He lived to be 99 and died in 1992. The Bethel representative said, “If a brother was born, in say, 1890, but later got baptized in 1915, 1916, or 1917, THAT ANOINTED brother would be part of the 2nd contemporary anointed group.

He also said Brother John Barr, was OF “this generation” BUT, he was part of the 2nd anointed contemporary overlapping group. Bro. Barr (2nd group) was born in 1913. At the age of 21 in 1934, he too was baptized, and also one of the anointed. Bro. Barr now overlaps with Bro. Franz. Bro. Barr lives to be 97 and he dies in 2010.

There is still one more “Overlap” he said. Now the (3rd group) of anointed is Not Part of the "this generation" anointed ones. He said, “All the 1914 Anointed Older Group has since died between 10 to 20 years ago.” The brother concluded with, “That this Great Tribulation is about to get started any day soon.”

I better make sure my “bug-out” bag is stocked and ready to go. I’ll be needing it soon.

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Oh come on!!! seriously?? This weeks wt study!

by stuckinarut2 in

i'm sitting here at the mtg, and i can't believe the mind numbing stupidity of this weeks wt "study"...( i use the word study loosely too by the way...).

how many dumb repeated questions can be posed to try and make a point?.

the opening paragraph illustration re blindness is classic!

baldeagle

The GB have conditioned their members to remain passive. Don't try to figure things out, or think too deeply on it! Don't look for flaws!

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Is this new donation arrangement for real?

by nugget in

just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

baldeagle

They are just following the counsel and divine direction found in their new Bible. (Silver Sword Edition)

"Bread is made for laughter, and wine makes life enjoyable; but money answers every need." (Ecclesiastes 10:19)

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Nauseating JW.org section for small children - CUTOUTS? Really?

by BluePill2 in

i am not hot linking to jw borg, but they have a whole section for obviously very small children (become j's friend, with a whole array of caleb-related stuff).

i have actually never visited the site, today was the first time, because i wanted to check a technical information about their websites architecture and came across this sh*t!.

the way they are targeting small kids is nauseating me (i have a 5 year old, still in with her mother).

baldeagle

You just can't make this stuff up. I had to see it for myself!!

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The best explanation of Matthew 24 and 'This Generation', that I've read so far

by Island Man in

http://meletivivlon.com/2014/04/02/this-generation-a-new-premise/.

baldeagle

Interesting comments.

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Audio of Detroit Propaganda Video

by kneehighmiah in

jw
friends

i couldn't take video to avoid blowing my cover.

the audio quality could be better.

can anyone enhance it?.

baldeagle

“The parking situation will take care of itself...Jehovah's spirit...it's going to work out!”

“Jehovah's invited us to be here at the Detroit Michigan International Conventions. What a privilege.”

Rest assured Brothers; Jehovah's spirit is on this arrangement. It will be safe.

wannabefree thanks for those links.

Great reassuring video, I’m convinced! Really then what can go wrong?? Everyone start booking your rooms immediately.

The “explosion of love” is just a few weeks away.

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Audio of Detroit Propaganda Video

by kneehighmiah in

jw
friends

i couldn't take video to avoid blowing my cover.

the audio quality could be better.

can anyone enhance it?.

baldeagle

The WTS is really emphasizing all the creature comforts, and luxurious amenities in order to convince all the spoiled and pampered American JW’s. Material things or luxuries that help to provide for one's bodily comfort is usually spoken as being secondary. Here we have a list of conveniences that will specifically contribute to bodily comfort and ease of mind. Here are some excerpts from this silly embarrassing marketing video:

…..A beautiful location…..in the entertainment district of Detroit, a safe place, a lot to do, it's wonderful all the way around.....The cleanness, the comfort.....Many restaurants, a lot to do around here, a lot of businesses, a lot of people walking around. Restrooms, I was surprised to see how many there were, how large they were. Many stalls in there, also very clean.

Ford Field is just beautiful; you can call it state of the art. …..Ford Field offers the comforts of home, nice seats, they’ve got Jumbotrons…..see the speaker from any area in the stadium. Nice leg room…..also cup holders, the seats were plush. Ford Field is air conditioned, and it’s gorgeous, its sound system is just exquisite…..Jehovah’s spirit is on this arrangement.......The GB it’s demonstrating its love for the brothers to be able to establish something that’s organized in this way…..it reflects their direction and the depth of their love for us…………

Our brothers in the Branch office really care about us, they care about our comfort, they care about our cars, and so they want to make sure that we’re safe and well provided for.

But this has got to be the biggest line of crap ever: Our brothers truly love us, more than we love us. So we know that it is going to work.

Now I’ve heard it all!! They love me more than I do, really? You may love your spouse more than yourself. You definitely love your children more than yourself, and would give up your life for them. But are some dudes at the branch (The Magnificent 7) with food, clothing, shelter, and medical coverage for life, worried about me?

This religion is getting more and more desperate. They have no shame in what they say. Do they really think the brothers will keep putting up with it all? The F&DS is starting to experience some push back and resistance regarding some of these assembly locations. For me a video is unprecedented in the GB showing their disfavor. This may become the new normal with this latest technology. When some resistance or conflict is observed and reported, a congregation video can be televised to squash the insurgents.

Oh by the way they had me at, “There were hand railings on the ramps.”

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Need to find those Km or Wt articles encouraging all to read the old publications!

by stuckinarut2 in

i have been dropping comments to a few re some classic old beliefs and teachings etc... and when asked "where did you read that, or how come you are saying such and such?

" i have replied "well, you remember we have often been told to study and research our old 'theocratic history' and 'old gems' of material?....

now though i have been challenged to prove where this has been printed!.

baldeagle

Great quotes, thanks.

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WTBT$ will no longer support Elder's legally....

by Newly Enlightened in

we received an email and are wondering if anyone can verify this little tidbit of news.

does anyone know if this is true or not?.

maybe any elder's on here?.

baldeagle

I hope this is true. Some elders may finally wake up and see this “new light.” Hopefully many will conclude that they don’t want to put themselves or their families in financial jeopardy.

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Critique of Mar 2014 Awake on Creation by Alan Feuerbacher

by jwfacts in

alan feuerbacher has written a tremendous critique of the march 2014 awake!, which contains a grossly dishonest discussion on creation.

the pdf file can be downloaded from awake_march_2014_creation_critique.pdf.

it highlights watchtower use of poor and contradictory reasoning..

baldeagle

Thanks, marked for reading.