Posts by baldeagle

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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

by stuckinamovement in

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

baldeagle

Give them "Hell" Royal Commission. These leaders should get what they deserve.

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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

by titch in

greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

baldeagle

Depending on where you lived and how much a “true believer” (gullible) you were, 1975 received a variety of responses. Some continued living their lives as usual working, raising families etc.

I remember a brother, a friend of mine telling me when he was a kid, his father bought a new house in early 1974. The response from the congregation including the PO was caustic, along the lines, “Are you crazy? Aren’t you listening to the talks and counsel coming from the organization? You’ll never live in that house it’s only going to be a distraction, where’s your faith my brother? A few short years later that chastised “faithless” brother became the new Presiding Overseer, raising his kids in a nice new home. The original PO who was involved in the ridiculing fell away due to the 1975 fiasco.

Also I personally know of two family men each with young children at the time (12-14 yrs. old) who felt compelled to sell their houses in 1973. The end never came. Over the years they both exhausted their savings by renting and day-to-day expenses and were unable to reenter the housing market. One is deceased the other is 86 years old still paying rent from a measly government pension.

It seems some today haven’t learned any lessons from the WT’s history. Many couples have been interviewed at the RC for 2015. They have admitted they simplified their lives quitting jobs when necessary….and…..wait…for…it……selling their homes so they could be temporary workers at the Warwick project. The insanity continues. They give up a couple of years of their lives and their real estate to hang wallpaper etc…..then they get their walking papers. Thanks for showing up God bless you all. True insanity and recklessness!!!

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March JW Broadcast: Once again disparaging Higher Education - this time in the Music Video.

by cappytan in

i will have the music video separated shortly.

will post the link once it's done..

baldeagle

2015 January Broadcasting – (Anthony Morris) spent half the segment demonizing and attacking higher education on all levels.

2015 February Broadcasting – (Samuel Herd) A video shows an elderly sister reminiscing about her life. It’s interesting that she says to herself, “I never imagined I would be this old in this system of things. Time goes by so fast. I’m on the infirm pioneer list.” She wants to still serve in some way and says, “The young ones especially need our help.”

We now see a scene of a young sister deciding between a college scholarship or filling out a regular pioneer application. This elderly sister is able to convince this young woman to give up an education and a rewarding career but rather hand out WTS tracts for the next 70 years, mission accomplished!!

2015 March Broadcasting – (Gerrit Losch) Again an overt attack on higher education. A young woman in school is handed literature containing colleges & universities to consider. She rejects the literature outright not even giving it an unbiased consideration. She’s heard of all the evils of higher education. Later we see her filling out a regular pioneer application, mission accomplished once again.

I’ve said this before; this must be a huge organizational problem for the WTS leaders that they have to constantly demonize higher education on such a regular basis. It would at least cause one to conclude that this campaign of vilifying higher education is falling on deaf ears. The relentless, unyielding disparaging remarks on extra education must clearly indicate a profound refusal from young ones in listening to any of this crap from the GB. From what I’ve seen and heard from surrounding congregations many young ones are definitely interested in getting extra education if possible.

The reality is most Millennials are not interested in pioneering and if they’re men are even less interested in reaching out to be elders or MS’s. The shortage of young ones that are making any type of full-time service a goal is alarming to the WTS leadership. They are hemorrhaging youth, and young couples that for the most part will not believe blindly or live like their parents did. They saw their parents grow old and their father’s faithful service to the congregation go unappreciated.

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CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.

by The Laser Viking in

i am 6th generation.

i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.

i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.

baldeagle

You stated, “I didn't really intend on engaging with him this much. I don't really have an end goal. I was baptized and made it a point to not be DFed when I left. I still have a good relationship my my parents.”

If you have faded away and not on any radar, leave this matter alone, you’re playing with fire & this could have a nasty ending. This CO is not your friend or buddy. He wants to save a “lost wayward sheep” and start you back to recruiting others for the WTS. As has been said earlier, you will never “win” this discussion.

He will not openly agree that anything harmful, deceptive or malicious, ever took place intentionally. After all remember that the GB are just humble imperfect men whom God has chosen to use….the light over time gets brighter……and the GB have always done their very best in disseminating Bible truth as they understood it at the time.

breakfast of champions had the best overall advice:

Solid easy argument 1): Please leave my property now.

Solid easy argument 2): Please leave my property now and do not come back.

Go on leading a peaceful & productive life enjoying your family and friends.

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GOVERNING BODY: Thanks for nothing, you rat bastards!

by Terry in

as a jehovah's witness:.

two things finally struck me:.

for now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now i know in part, but then i will know fully just as i also have been fully known.. _______________________.

baldeagle

The WTS leaders are truly reprehensible!

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You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

by cappytan in

check this out.

got this bound volume from my dad.. .

baldeagle

Great discussion and personal comments. I know so many elderly ones 80+ that have gone through all this nonsense, sacrificing everything for the WTS and they are still unwavering in their conviction that this must be the Truth. How Sad.

The newer crops of Millennials today are not as gullible and will not be as easily swayed. (Internet is readily available) Many of the teenagers today are not as willing to throw away their youth and future so quickly.

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Video: How to use the site / basic navigation

by Simon in

please don't laugh - i just threw this together and didn't bother making a script first so probably repeat myself or make no sense at all at times.. hopefully it will demonstrate a few tips for using the site more effectively.. i'll do one on signing up and logging in next and also how to edit, reply etc.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx5d3ct0y50.

baldeagle

Thanks Simon, much appreciated. Can someone briefly explain to me how you send a PM. I knew how to on the old site, but can't seem to find it here on the new site. I'm using IE 11 and can navigate my way around ok with most everything else.

Thank You

baldeagle

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Who is Gog of Magog? - Watchtower May 2015

by jwleaks in

here we go again... let's study... news report... comment.... who is gog of magog mentioned in the book of ezekiel?.

for a number of years, our publications have explained that gog of magog is the name given to satan the devil after his ouster from heaven.

this explanation was based on the fact that the book of revelation identifies satan the devil as the leader of the worldwide attack on gods people.

baldeagle

I’m glad this new GB (2.0) is on the ball & finally cleaning up the mess left behind from the old GB that are all dead and went to heaven.

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The Governing Body does not want people to download and save its monthly JW Broadcasting propaganda

by Watchtower-Free in

tv.jw.org does not provide a download option for this monthly broadcast.

also it has made it difficult to download direct through other means .

here's one way that still works.

baldeagle

Thanks cappytan for posting those links for JW Broadcasting. You mention they are available right on the jw.org website. I’ve been on there twice now and must be missing something. I’ve searched for those links and cannot locate them. Can you or someone else, please briefly indicate where they are located on that web page if it’s not too much trouble?

Thank You

baldeagle

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"Are you old in this system?" Feb 2015 broadcast video. Must watch

by stuckinarut2 in

if you have not already watched the feb 2015 broadcast, go to approx.

it has an elderly sister talking about being old in this world...a long time pioneer who probably thought the end would have come years ago...as the society told her many times.. now she is told to be on a mission to get young ones to also pioneer, and watch for the not so subtle condemntion of higher education!.

sickening stuff........ they missed the obvious elephant in the room.... a life wasted on nothing...now she has no money, and lived waiting for a fairy tale!

baldeagle

This elderly sister is reminiscing about her life. It’s interesting that she says to herself, “I never imagined I would be this old in this system of things. Time goes by so fast. I’m on the infirm pioneer list.” Camera next shows you her field service report of 15 min.

It’s quite clear that all the older ones born back in the 1930’s (if still alive) are feeling a tremendous amount of loss and trepidation. That sinking and horrible realization is upon them, that they will not enter Paradise in the “upright” position. I know several devout JW friends’ old timers’ who truly self-sacrificed and worked hard for the WTS. They have expressed this terrible acknowledgement; they are disheartened, confused but too heavily invested to go elsewhere. Their life is nearing its end. Truly sad, and heartrending.

But leave it to the old shameful WTS to give these older ones a purpose of encouraging young ones to forgo higher education for pioneering. This must be a huge organizational problem for the WTS leaders, that they have to constantly demonize going to college on such a regular basis. It would at least cause one to conclude that this campaign of vilifying higher education is falling on deaf ears. The relentless, unyielding disparaging remarks on extra education must clearly indicate a profound refusal from young ones in listening to any of this crap from the GB.