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  Need help compiling a list of the latest changes in doctrine and practices

  by jwfacts in

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  2. beliefs

  i have former jws looking at jwfacts.com in order to update themselves with what is happening with the religion, so that they can better understand their jw family.

  it thought it would help if there was a page devoted to what has changed since 2000. .

  2012 oct release of jw.org - jws encouraged to download their own publications and use ipads at meetings and field service.

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  baldeagle

  What a lame religion this has been all along. How did we fall for all this crap?
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  Cut and Paste of "The List" by Prominent Bethelite of Previous Watchtower Predicted Dates

  by TMS in

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  2. friends

  " {watchtower sep 1 1989 12}.

  " {tiah 240-1, also references in wr oct 1879 3941, tkic 84}.

  '" {zions watchtower mar 1880 repr 82}.

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  baldeagle

  Awesome information. Thank you for posting.
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  JT & Lady Cee Why we left the Jehovah's Witnesses - Part 1

  by JT-LadyC in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  many years ago, my husband and i appeared on the board that was known as h20 aka simon's site.

  it has been a while since we have posted anything, so i guess i can say that this is like coming out of retirement.

  lol.

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  baldeagle

  Thanks for a great video. It was reasonably presented.
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  "And Your Little Dog Too...." WTS not content with taking kids' ice cream money, now they want them to give up their puppy dogs too.

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  don't know if anyone else caught this subtle but malicious photo from the 12/13/15 wt study article.. not sure how to post pictures here, but the photo is on the website's copy of the article, just below paragraph 12:.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20151015/give-us-more-faith/.

  note the 3 pictures in sequence tell a "story":.

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  baldeagle

  This religion is shameless. It truly has gone off the rails and becoming crazier by the day. Now that I'm out, I'm kind of looking forward to what the year 2016 will bring. But I wish I could get my last 35 years back, what a tremendous waste of time and energy. Shame on me!!! Why didn't I wake up sooner?
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  Samuel Herd: a woman saying "if she were a man....." is borderline being a homosexual

  by Khaleesi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure if this was posted before... but apparently for the wt a woman's smaller cranium than a man's shows she was designed to be in submission to the man!!

  unbelievable he dared to say such things!.

  https://youtu.be/wqzc2m8_mba.

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  baldeagle

  Great references, but unbelievable how crazy. Thanks.
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  Watchtower Dishonesty

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. friends

  just re-discovered this gem:.

  "it is a matter of fact that the history of the watchtower society is riddled with failed date-setting and abandoned doctrine,1 and the society has gone to great lengths to hide this past from its members.

  older (incriminating) watchtower publications are virtually impossible to obtain through the society,2 while at the same time members are overwhelmed with "current" watchtower material.. the watchtower society has even gone as far as to publish disinformation about its own history in an attempt to convince readers that watchtower doctrine has remained consistent over the years, and that the society is not a false prophet.

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  baldeagle

  Vanderhoven7 - thanks for all the references. Much appreciated.
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  Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

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  baldeagle

  When he talks about some speculating that a 40+ year old anointed in say 1990 could well live into his 80’s he says, “Does that mean that this old system could continue until 2040?” He continues on saying that the Bible and Jesus make no mention that the 2nd group of anointed brothers have to be “old, decrepit or near death.” He says that the prophecy makes no reference to age.

  WT 2014 1/15 p. 31 par. 16 “Let Your Kingdom Come”—But When?

  16 The second group included in “this generation” are anointed contemporaries of the first group. They were not simply alive during the lifetime of those in the first group, but they were anointed with holy spirit during the time that those of the first group were still on earth. Thus, not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke. Today, those in this second group are themselves advancing in years. Yet, Jesus’ words at Matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of “this generation will by no means pass away” before seeing the start of the great tribulation. This should add to our conviction that little time remains before the King of God’s Kingdom acts to destroy the wicked and usher in a righteous new world.—2 Pet. 3:13.

  So the video categorically states that the prophecy makes no reference to age, and then they make reference to age in the above magazine.

  The WTS is trying to emphasize that the second group are generally quite elderly “advanced in years” today, in fact right now, no need to wait for 2040. In so doing; this should stress the nearness of Armageddon now since those in the 2nd group are already old. But remember “there’s no reference to age.”

  Lame and embarrassing video indeed.

  
  
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  First thoughts on "new" meeting...

  by konceptual99 in

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  2. beliefs

  had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.. the increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" .

  sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but i think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

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  baldeagle

  

  RULES & REGULATIONS: ……There is no reasoning or thinking abilities at this meeting. Everything is boring, structured, and your brain is left at the door.

  
  
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  2015. Annual meeting

  by obarac in

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  2. beliefs

  any news?

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  baldeagle

  

  WTH has happened to this religion? That “sample meeting video” is truly lame. This will bore people just as much as the old style mid-week meeting. People will “zone out” just as quickly as before as they look at their corny artwork in the workbook. Videos seem to inundate the program during each month, a good time to catch some z’s. I’m shocked at how weak in substance the meetings have become since I became inactive over five years ago. Imagine bringing a neighbour or a study to something as underwhelming as this? This is the best they can come up with to rejuvenate interest in meetings? Again WTH has happened to this religion?
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  Bethel Layoff Notices arrive under Bethellite doors

  by Quarterback in

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  2. friends

  just heard from a reliable source that some at the canadian branch have received their lay-off notices under their doors at bethel.

  don't know what the letter looks like.

  probably something like, " the tribe has spoken, bring us your torches"

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  baldeagle

  berrygerry: Any speculation as to why they were laid off?
  

  None was given. No wrongdoing or problems. Many of their friends were shocked as these two were a model JW couple. Their services were simply no longer required and it appeared they got the short straw. Many I knew then were happy it didn’t happen to them at the time. This long-time Bethel couple left in good standing with a fine recommendation.