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  My email to JW Following Trolley Conversation

  by cofty in

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  a few weeks ago i had an really interesting conversation with three male jws who were loitering around a trolley at the west end of princes street in edinburgh.. i managed to completely avoid giving any hint about my jw past and focussed on why they thought the bible was a reliable moral guide.

  i used the subject of slavery to illustrate my concerns.. one of the three was in his early twenties, knew a lot about his own beliefs but nothing about the real life and it was difficult to get through his thought-bubble.

  the second one was in his 60s and not very bright.

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  Did he ever respond?

  Very nice email.
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  COVID-19 another example showing local publishers/congregations are on their own?

  by JWTom in

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  my area is a large city spread across two u.s. states and multiple different cities and counties.

  the area of 2.5 million is covered by parts of 4-5 different circuits.

  many of those attending meetings are at-risk individuals with health problems or age related risk.

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  Here’s what I know. My eighty year old elder, father had a meeting of eleven guests at his home last night so 13 in total including my mom. My 70 year old mom went out in field service this morning. My two cents is that this organization that has been lying to and dividing my family for 50+ years, Is still business as usual. They are using zoom for meetings and no doubt will plead for donations even though my dad and others like him are footing the bill and exposing themselves to possible life threatening illness. This organization sickens me.
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  Venting: I absolutly dispise the JW religion with all my heart

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  2. experiences

  i absolutly hate the jw religion.

  i hate the fact that my wife whom i love with all my heart is so brainwashed by them.

  i hate them pos's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  Me too!!
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  Vultures

  by Brainfloss in

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  for years much of my family has shunned me and my brother who left the craziness behind long ago.

  thirty or more years in fact for him and officially more than 15 for me although i was never a shunner.

  but i have noticed that the hover like vultures waiting to contact us for information when we or others they deem not worthy of their association become ill or die.

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  For years much of my family has shunned me and my brother who left the craziness behind long ago. Thirty or more years in fact for him and officially more than 15 for me although I was never a shunner.

  But I have noticed that the hover like vultures waiting to contact us for information when we or others they deem not worthy of their association become ill or die. I haven’t heard from them at all in two possibly three years, now my shunned brother has become ill and they have got wind of it somehow. My phone is full of texts and voicemails looking for information on the matter ha! VULTURES I say. Shun me? Little do they know I have been shunning them for years. Tonight I told them exactly that. They say we love you guys. I told them they don’t act like it and that if they would like to make contact a more appropriate time would be after we pass this current trial. NO MORE INFORMATION to make you feel better after years of shunning. Love us? Then act like it or stay forever away.

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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  TWM asks

  Allow me to ask this question. The wrong that you experienced, was that a logical outworking of what Jesus taught, or was it contrary to Jesus’ teachings? Judge a movement by its originator, not its followers. Some followers will always abuse in order to control. That is human nature, especially in religious matters gone wrong. I have been burned once also. I believe ‘fool me one shame on you’, “fool me twice shame on me.’ Wake up one morning and realized everything I was taught was a lie. I did not give up on God, I gave up on the WTS.

  What exactly are Jesus teachings?

  love?

  I love my wife and children I have the ability to house and feed them all of them in fact I die so that they will never need to worry about food or housing again then I am resurected an made king I can feed and house the whole world keep them from getting sick the whole spiel you know what Jesus claims to be able to do.

  But instead of doing anything immediatly I let over 2000 years go by still human kind is suffering. My followers are abusing children hiding behind my name. Wars are being fought both sides say it is in my name that they fight. Oh yeah before I was Jesus I did the same thing that my followers are doing now using my chosen people. Killing women and children enslaving foriegners making later generations pay for the sins of their ancestors. That's right grandparents won't see their grand kids because their 18 year old son had sex or smoked a cigarette and never repented. I have the power to stop all of this but nobody knows the day or the hour that I will. But I will have faith I will. Oh yeah you better have faith that I will do what I say or in 50 trillion years you won't be one second closer to the end of your punishment then you are right now.

  now I'm not sure if it because of Jesus teachings or his followers but I suspect it is his followers because if anyone had the power to do the things he says he has why the hell would he wait so long and let so many suffer. I sincerely doubt there is any such entity with his claimed powers
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  TWM cites

  Extra Biblical Evidence supporting the life. death, and Resurrection of Jesus.

  come on lets not insult one another these very references have been long ago and widely discredited. A veteran debater such as you,I have tracked your work going back nearly 10 years and suspect much more,can do much better than this. I have used these references myself when arguing your side of the matter and I at the time was a babe in the woods. This forum is made up of primarily x jehovahs witnesses who have been shunned by their families,lost their homes, had their lives completely turned upside down by their doubts about religion. We in large part have done the research .

  You say--

  
  The historical evidence for the life, death and resurrection of Jesus is overwhelming.

  The evidence you pose is hardly overwhelming. The evidence you pose is flimsy at best.

  Please overwhelm us with the evidence

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  Mathematically Measuring Evolution.

  by towerwatchman in

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  mathematically measuring evolution.. when judging relationships in terms of morphological characteristics we will always be bound by the subjective.

  morphologically one cannot exactly measure the distance between two organisms strictly in mathematical terms.

  using the standard method of taxonomy we cannot quantify the difference between a horse and a mouse, or know which is closer mouse to cat, or mouse to fish.

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  TWM says

  Ever heard of a typo?

  I believe we will have to agree to disagree that the context of the discussion and the timing of the insult i.e. BRAIN LOSS do not point to typo. Again I cannot prove it, same as with existance of god. I do however know what I believe.

  Here is why

  in our limited exchanges I have never been ugly or out of line.

  prior to this instance neither had you

  you claim to be engaging in this forum for Christian reasons. Notice your lack of response to my apparent lost sheep attitude

  The only time a typo of this sort appears is in the context that it appeared-- frustration at past being as you say DREDGED UP

  response in this thread is snarky ever hear of a typo ? Rather than the Christian response SORRY

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  Mathematically Measuring Evolution.

  by towerwatchman in

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  mathematically measuring evolution.. when judging relationships in terms of morphological characteristics we will always be bound by the subjective.

  morphologically one cannot exactly measure the distance between two organisms strictly in mathematical terms.

  using the standard method of taxonomy we cannot quantify the difference between a horse and a mouse, or know which is closer mouse to cat, or mouse to fish.

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  TWM says

  seems the most Atheist can do is attack character. So much for a science, logic and reason based world view. You act more like an antiquated superstitious religion. Come back when you want to discuss facts.

  Seems a bit ironic coming from the one who referred to me as BRAIN LOSS on page 14 of the op about Atheism being self defeating.
  
  
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

  1. watchtower
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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  TWM now lets address the topic.--

  You are right I cannot Prove that there is no god. I certainly have not examined the teachings of every god that man has worshipped over time.

  But if there is a god who requires that you believe in him for salvation ( whatever that means to you) , why not give some compelling evidence to mankind, or screw mankind why not give some compelling evidence to me I have certainly given an honest effort searching. He allegedly gave us the Bible but the Bible doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Garden of eden, flood. 40 years wandering in the dessert. The list goes on. Even if science has been deceived by the devil why were the people that lived thousands of years ago allowed to see miracles and tangeble evidence of god but we must rely on faith alone. It's backwards there understanding of the world would have been more likely to let faith be their guide. Surely god knew that science would say that man was far older then eden. That the animals we have today couldn't be here from a worldwide flood just a few thousand years ago. He knew that there would be no evidence of hundreds of thousands of people lost in the desert for 40 years. And whether or not science is right or the devil is blinding mans eyes, why do ancient people get to see god and we don't.

  is that perfect justice, wisdom, and power , above all is that perfect love?

  So yes I am an Athiest. I don't have to prove that there is no god to you or anyone. If some philosopher wants to analyze my thought process and say it is flawed so be it but I gave it a fair try I dedicated my life to the search for evidence of god for 40+ years and what I got was cut off from most of my family for questioning something that even the leaders can't supply answers to.

  brainfloss