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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-12-2017 WT Study (FREE WILL)

  by blondie in

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  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

  bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

  wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

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  NotNew

  Make our own intelligent choices? Only from information from the bible; but ordinary jws are told they cannot understand the bible without help from the GB and WTS publications, how is that free will

  Free will defined - MAKING YOUR CHOISES ON WHAT GOD-GB SAYS ARE ACCEPTABLE!

  That sounds like forced free will!

  If using my "free will" means you kill me for not agreeing with you...don't you dare tell me I still had the freedom of free will.

  If I had equal power and could not have my life taken or ruined, then I would have free will to make any decision I felt was right for me!

  THANKS BLONDIE FOR THE RECAP
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  This week's wt paragraph 13 and 15 free will

  by poopie in

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  does forcing people to shun other people violate free will?

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  NotNew

  Only when you are not in control of your own mind...BITE bring any memories back? Your Behavior, Information, Thoughts, and Emotions are controlled by the org!

  Its easier to blame 'you' then those in control of you!
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  Looking forward to going to Memorial this year!

  by kpop in

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  i have some tricks to play.

  i know it may sound childish but i feel that creating havoc and forcing the memorial to be postponed will be the highlight of the night!

  wish me luck!.

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  NotNew

  Show me the scripture that says "go out and invite non believers to observe this event"!

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  or non partakers
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  Is Jehovah God guilty of the Sin of Omission ?

  by smiddy in

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  in genesis ch.1&2 god warns adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and bad he would die .theire was nothing said about anything else.. you would expect humans would just die of old age like adam and eve did.. the wages of sin is death the bible tells us .so if he disobeyed jehovah god he knew he would die .. what he never knew and neither did any other human to come after him was just how many ways death would come to humans.. death by creatures that were created by god venomous creatures ,snakes spiders etc.,marine creatures sharks etc., bacteria /viruses etc.,insect carrying diseases such as the mosquito that causes thousands of deaths to children under 5 years old even today with malaria.,wild animals etc,.leprosy that even existed under theocratic rule in the nation of israel.. then their is the indignties humans go through in old age ,loss of bodily functions , mental capacity ,alzheimers ,neurological diseases that effect young and old.that reduce people to almost live not much better than a vegetable .

  natural disasters not to be excluded because these are in the control of god to afflict mankind or not.. the list of afflictions that humans have to suffer through before they die , from a loving god just boggles my mind.. and i have only scratched the surface of indignities humans have faced before they die.. so i ask the question is god jehovah guilty of the sin of omission ?

  or did he act out of vengeance for their disobedience and wanted to inflict greater punishment upon them.for disobeying him.. what are your thoughts ?.

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  NotNew

  "God warns Adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and bad he would die ."

  So Adam knew what death was?
  

  My thoughts: Prior to sinning, Adam and Eve would have had to FIRST chose to not believe God.

  So we have two infants Adam and Eve ( pawns in the game of life and death god made up) who after being presented with evidence (?) from this powerful angel that transformed in to a tree creature...used the power of persuasion, to convince Eve that she was not being told the whole truth. Seem to me she FIRST based her decision on the more believable information presented?! Not arbitrarily choosing not to believe God!
  How can you blame someone for not believing you based only on what you said without providing them with some information to back it up? To say you first chose not to believe me is passing blame!
  Gods relationship with his angelic children was strained, he should of worked it out with them and not involve powerless infant humans.
  
  
  
  
  
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  Watchtower’s 53 Date Failures -- Prophetic Declarations Quietly Abandoned

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  below is a paste of the front of my recent essay.

  ask most jws today and they'll tell you that, yes, watchtower has made a few mistakes -- that there are a couple date failures -- 1925 -- and maybe another one they can't even remember.. lest they forget, the following should jog their collective memories as to how egregious watchtower has been in their obsession with date predictions (oh, but we don't make predictions, they may tell you) over the 138 years of watchtower history.. len miller.

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  NotNew

  Great work...I'll add it to my files . THANKS
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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

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  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  NotNew

  Simon...you are making way too much sense, you need to stop it for fear of people's heads exploding! :)
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  Paul did not belittle women

  by Doug Mason in

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  i note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.

  the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.

  he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.

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  NotNew

  Point taken! Seems those posters are or appear to be misandrist...always putting men in a bad light. If ur a male don't dare say anything negative about a female or you will be labeled as a hater of all women!
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  Do you believe that Jehovah is using the Organization today?

  by Iamallcool in

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  any elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.

  i hope that they will never ask me that question.

  any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.

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  NotNew

  For what?

  To despence food at the proper time?
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  Survey: Are you Agnostic or Atheist or Christian?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i am agnostic.

  i will count how many agnostics, atheists and christians that are reading this forum regularly.

  please answer my question.

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  NotNew

  I currently believe there is/was a creator...but not a god as instructed to believe by my JW upbringing. So that would make me an atheist to the long held belief in a loving god!

  
  
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  Yoga pants parade to protest a mans comments on women's wear.

  by ToesUp in

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  yoga pants parade.

  i guess tight pants tony isn't the only man that needs to get a life!.

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  NotNew

  Why would anyone want to ban yoga pants?