Gopher,Good observation.They don't want the rank and file to trust the media and other reports that are coming out as the previous study article reveals,trust only them.
Minimus,I do trust you!
Big Tex, Ditto!
Blueblades
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the picture on page 18 shows five elders intently reading some verses in the bible.the one at the head is seemingly reviewing those scriptures with the others.three of them are taking notes,one is not ,he is eye -- balling the other one.. do the elders trust each other?
page 17 par.17 trusting in jehovah means trusting in those whom he trusts.example:the fds.the elders who are appointed by holy spirit.by cooperating with the elder arrangement in the congregation,we also show that we trust in jehovah.. trust:a firm belief or confidence in the honesty,integrity,relliability,justice,etc.of another person or thing.. with few exceptions the fds.and its appointed elders do not measure up to the meaning of trust.as the record shows,and painfully so,that many have suffered harm for misplacing their trust in such ones.. blueblades (who does not trust them any more and according to them that means that i don't trust god either.how do they know whom i trust?
Gopher,Good observation.They don't want the rank and file to trust the media and other reports that are coming out as the previous study article reveals,trust only them.
Minimus,I do trust you!
Big Tex, Ditto!
Blueblades
i was standing on my front porch talking on my cell phone when three car loads of them pulled up down the street.
by the time i finished my conversation, one of the jws was standing on my sidewalk waiting for me to get off the phone.
i eventually did.
Hi Francois! Your directness,honest and to the point,straightforward approach was commanding to say the least.It achieved its objective.The first response he gives you is a "Red Herring" bringing up some point that is not relevent to your argument.
You were Honest,he was dishonest.You were Principled and he was unprincipled.You were Genuine and he was artificial.No wonder the GB won't debate you!
Blueblades
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the picture on page 18 shows five elders intently reading some verses in the bible.the one at the head is seemingly reviewing those scriptures with the others.three of them are taking notes,one is not ,he is eye -- balling the other one.. do the elders trust each other?
page 17 par.17 trusting in jehovah means trusting in those whom he trusts.example:the fds.the elders who are appointed by holy spirit.by cooperating with the elder arrangement in the congregation,we also show that we trust in jehovah.. trust:a firm belief or confidence in the honesty,integrity,relliability,justice,etc.of another person or thing.. with few exceptions the fds.and its appointed elders do not measure up to the meaning of trust.as the record shows,and painfully so,that many have suffered harm for misplacing their trust in such ones.. blueblades (who does not trust them any more and according to them that means that i don't trust god either.how do they know whom i trust?
The picture on page 18 shows five elders intently reading some verses in the Bible.The one at the head is seemingly reviewing those scriptures with the others.Three of them are taking notes,one is not ,he is eye -- balling the other one.
Do the elders trust each other? Page 17 par.17 Trusting in Jehovah means trusting in those whom he trusts.Example:The FDS.The Elders who are appointed by Holy Spirit.By cooperating with the elder arrangement in the congregation,we also show that we trust in Jehovah.
Trust:A firm belief or confidence in the honesty,integrity,relliability,justice,etc.of another person or thing.
With few exceptions the FDS.and its appointed Elders do not measure up to the meaning of trust.As the record shows,and painfully so,that many have suffered harm for misplacing their trust in such ones.
Blueblades (who does not trust them any more and according to them that means that I don't trust God either.How do they know whom I trust?)
no one has come to my door yet.
i know that someone in my family called a couple of years ago and gave them my address.
they have dropped by a couple of times.
So,Jesus returned in 1914,but,didn't get those guys out of prison until 1919,huh?Meanwhile back to 1914 he resurrected all his brothers who were sleeping in the grave,but, not the living,no he did not perform the rapture for them,huh?
Meanwhile two books are written and studied at the book study,Isaiah,repeating 1914 and 1919 over and over again and again.Huh?Why are these guys still hanging around on earth?Maybe, just maybe, Jesus took a look at them and said,"Sorry fellas,you got it all wrong" and left them all here on the earth.
And so it began and so it will end ,right here on earth.No 1914,no 1919,no rapture,no return,no memorial.OOPS! Just a minute let me show you right here in the watchtower were it says that in 1914 and 1919 ,1914 and 1919,1914,1919,1914,1919,that's right keep repeating it to yourself,you just might believe it,it just might come true.
Blueblades
i know this has been discussed before but i think a fresh thread on this will be enjoyable.
Two:I won't name them as it would give me away.One said to me ,"Even if you are not an elder anymore,I'll still love you as a brother."He wanted to have me deleted over family matters.
One time he told us( who were serving on a judicial matter) to disfellowship the person before we actually heard the case!
Another time he wanted to delete the whole body unless we signed a letter saying we would improve in our effort to help the cong.to perform better in service and meeting attendance.
Finally,when I told him that two elders had breached confidentiality,and should be deleted,he told me to just let it go.They were his good ole' boys.
The other one wanted to see me at his talk on sunday.When I told him to come inside my home as I had some things I wanted to discuss about the elders.He said that he was late for lunch and had to go!He just stopped by to ask me to come to the meeting on sunday to hear his talk.
When I told him what if I lit up a cigarette right here in front of you! Then would you skip lunch and call the elders together for an investigation or would try to help me right now.He just said he had to go.
That's enough for now.There is so much more I have to say,another time.
Blueblades
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psalm 91:7) a thousand will fall at your very side and ten thousand at your right hand.wt.01-11/15.p.18,par.12.. because of failing to make jehovah their refuge,many "fall" in spiritual death.at our "very side".
in effect,"ten thousand"have fallen at the "right hand"of today's spiritual israelites.. the society has now decided since nov.15,01 that psalm 91:7 which they have described as being fulfilled during armageddon,is now fulfilled when those who were once associated now leave, and as a result have "fallen" at their "very side"and their "right hand".. although they say,"because of failing to make jehovah their refuge many "fall"in "spiritual death".they are now spiritualizing armageddon as already being fulfilled because many are leaving the society.. blueblades
Hi Running Man,I too was at that WT.study and it went right over the heads of all in attendance.The conductor did not even elaborate on what was being said in this par.concerning it's application.No one commented on it's spiritual application in connection with those leaving the Society,specifically leaving the Anointed and the consequences for doing so.
Hi Blondie,good follow up as always!
Hi Craig,Thanks,this application has been on my mind for some time,so I thought I would post it for some feedback.
Blueblades
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psalm 91:7) a thousand will fall at your very side and ten thousand at your right hand.wt.01-11/15.p.18,par.12.. because of failing to make jehovah their refuge,many "fall" in spiritual death.at our "very side".
in effect,"ten thousand"have fallen at the "right hand"of today's spiritual israelites.. the society has now decided since nov.15,01 that psalm 91:7 which they have described as being fulfilled during armageddon,is now fulfilled when those who were once associated now leave, and as a result have "fallen" at their "very side"and their "right hand".. although they say,"because of failing to make jehovah their refuge many "fall"in "spiritual death".they are now spiritualizing armageddon as already being fulfilled because many are leaving the society.. blueblades
PSALM 91:7) A thousand will fall at your very side and ten thousand at your right hand.Wt.01-11/15.p.18,par.12.
Because of failing to make Jehovah their refuge,many "FALL" in Spiritual Death.At our "Very Side". In effect,"Ten Thousand"have fallen at the "Right Hand"of today's Spiritual Israelites.
The Society has now decided since Nov.15,01 that Psalm 91:7 which they have described as being fulfilled during Armageddon,is now fulfilled when those who were once associated now leave, and as a result have "Fallen" at their "Very Side"and their "Right Hand".
Although they say,"Because of failing to make Jehovah their refuge many "Fall"in "Spiritual Death".They are now Spiritualizing Armageddon as already being fulfilled because many are leaving the Society.
Blueblades
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how often did they tell us that we should at least once read the whole bible from cover to cover.. i never did that, why, because i was overloaded with meetings and field service, and my job.. did you??
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Read it several times.Is it inspired? Timothy wrote all SCRIPTURE is inspired of God.What was all scripture at that time?What did Jesus call all scripture at that time? The Law,the Psalms,and the Prophets.NOTHING ELSE!No 66 books that the church canonized.
So its questionable that the Bible is inspired of God.And the Law the Psalms,and the Phophets are fulfilled in Jesus if you want to believe it.Other than that the rest is ?????????????.
Blueblades
if the elders, certain family members or your "friends" knew that you frequented this board, what do you think would happen in your life?......personally, i think a jc would be imminent, and i am not talking about the coming of jesus christ, either.
Minimus,Of course this is a hypothetical question.A user name is just that.That is all the elders have to go by.So many stories are similar,that it would take the elders down many crossroads to actually try and pin down the true identity of the user name.Also it takes a lot hours to read these posts,even if you pick one at a time to trace it from beginning to end.
Even if the user name were traced to your e-mail address,so what ,its still not YOU!
And yet great care is taken by many of us not to reveal too much personal information until we are ready to do so.Not only for our protection but also for those we love.
I recall a thread started by Farkel that suggested we don't post too much about ourselves for the very reason of your hypothetical question.
However,if it was found out who I am by my body of elders, they would rule for DF.As I am only classified as inactive. According to this weeks WT. study,I'm loved by Jehovah and Jesus and valued in their eyes and so too the elders and rank and file,according to Blondie's WT.study this week.
Waiting for all the kisses and hugs coming my way soon.
Blueblades
comments you will not hear at the 3-16-03 wt study
february 1, 2003.
"have love among yourselves".
Blondie, The problem of" LACK "of Love, is the cancer that is eating the G.B.and those who follow their lead from the inside out.
I couldn't help but think of how Love is described at First Corinthians:13:1-8 as I was studying your analysis of the WT.lesson for 3/16/03.
As a former wt.study conductor,I realize the amount of effort and time that you put into these articles and the analysis of them for our benefit.
Blondie this speaks volumes about the LOVE that you have and that you give to all of us.And in this way you have reinforced my convictions concerning the" LACK" of Love that is prevalent inside the Society and that encompasses many of it's followers.Those that are genuine are in the minority and soon leave this heartless loveless organization.
It's post's like your that helps other's to make the move out.
Thanks for your labor of Love. Blueblades