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  Design or Non-Design, finally we know, Darwin's Doubt

  by QC in

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  if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.

  this is a game changer.

  the bomb!.

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  Evolution does a fairly decent job of explaining the great variety of life that we see.

  HOWEVER it does not do a very good job of explaining how life originated.
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  Can anyone give me any advice on how to get rid of cockroaches?

  by Jeannette in

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  i have sprayed, i have bug bombed, i have sprayed some more.

  i threw things out i thought that they might have a nest in.

  i soaked some things in hot water all day.

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  One of the great ironies of the known universe:

  Cockroaches are designed to withstand a nuclear holocust, however you can simply tip them over on their back and they are helpless!
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

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  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  Our human perspectives are very limited compared to an eternal perspective on things.

  God is not a bad God if he is offerings us something that is much greater than the suffering that we endure.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  We want God to save us.

  You want him to save us from the Tsanmi.

  "He" wants to save your etneral Soul.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  Okay jgnat you are gonna make me get a bit more religious on you. If you could be promised eternal bliss is there no mortal suffering you would willing acept to guarentee that?

  Our persepectives can be very small sometimes. Looking from the side of eternity things look different.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  in responce to "Tell this rationalization to this suffering person...."

  That is the wrong way to look at it. You and I are having a philosophical conversation on these subjects trying to help us understand better.

  On the other hand if I was acutally face to face with people from the pictures I would jsut try to help them in any way I could. Me trying rationalise the meaning of suffering with them would do them no good. What they need is some simple human compassion.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  We come in the world heralded in by the screams of our moms. Suffering is intrensitic to the human condition from the very beginning. Through most of history it was arguably much worse than it is today. I would say suffering for a human is as comon and normal as water is for a fish. However does the fish ever stop and contemplate "wow I am really wet today?"

  Considering all that what gives you the mojo to think you can ask for a suffering free existance? Is a fish ever bothered by the fact that is is wet? Does it ever long for a dry life?

  I would argue while we do live in a suffering filled world, we are not "meant" to live in a suffering filled world. We are "meant" for this other life. The simple fact at we are able to long for this other type of life, is proof that it is at least possible.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  little_Socrates

  Sorry I can't figure out how to say it without actually taking away from what I already said. I need to do some deep thinking for myself.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  little_Socrates

  Why must suffering be rationalized in the first place? Do we rationalise the fact that we breath, that we walk that we talk.... Its just another part of our existance. That fact that we can actually conceptuatize it in the fist place is proof that there is an something "else" out there that is NOT suffering.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  little_Socrates

  Yes I know I would want to press that big red stop button...

  However in the long run are you positive that it would create a better world? Could there be unforseen consequences?

  To me it seems as though your argument against the exisistance of God is like this "If I really think about I am sure I could invent a world better than this one. If there is a God, God must be greater than I. Since I could create a better world than God could there must be no God"

  Can't our own self confidence in our own rationality become like an idol?