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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  little_Socrates

  A quote from http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ops/hsc-scen-3_flu-transmission.htm

  "Some analyses report that influenza typically has a transmission rate of about 10. But others suggest that flu is not as highly transmissible in a community setting as has been imagined. The R0 for the 1918 pandemic was estimated to be only 1.8 in one study, while the 1918 pandemic strain's R0 was estimated at around 2 by another estimate. According to another analysis, the estimated proportion of the population with A/H1N1 immunity before September 1918 implied a median basic reproductive number of less than 4. Another study estimated R0=1.89 from influenza case incidence data for the first wave of pandemic influenza A (H3N2) starting in July 1968 in Hong Kong. These results suggested that the reproductive number for 1918 pandemic influenza was not large relative to many other infectious diseases. Other recent estimates of R0 for seasonal and pandemic flu typically range from 1.5 to 3. Estimates of the reproductive number (R) from England and Wales (1958-1973), for a mixture of influenza types and subtypes, ranged from 1.4 to 2.6. In contrast, SARS had an R0 of 3 (excluding super-spreaders), and measles has an R0 of 10 to 15, pertussis (16 - 18) or polio (8 - 12)."

  Most extimate the Ro for Ebola at around 2
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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  simmone17 here is a couple quotes from http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html

  "Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature."

  "Once someone recovers from Ebola, they can no longer spread the virus. However, Ebola virus has been found in semen for up to 3 months. People who recover from Ebola are advised to abstain from sex or use condoms for 3 months."

  (These were the specific comments I was refering to when I said it was all verified. My apoligies if you thought I was referencing something else)
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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  Pistof can you point me to one republican that wanted the CDC budget cut? Just because you believe in a smaller more fiscally responsible, it dosn't mean that you don't belive there are some ligitimate functions for Government.... besides sequestration was the presidents idea.
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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  Why are we so concerned about if ebola is airborn? The much more important thing is when you become contegous. As long as it stays that you are only contateous late in the illness we will be okay. If people become contageous eariler we are screwed.

  Kneehigh... not to pick on you but it could be airborn but just not yet at that point. Maybe somebody has to get sicker before it would become airborn.
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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  jgnat I start reading everything I could soon as I heard about the health care workers getting sick back in the spring. When I was younger I read a book about Spanish flu and it freaked me out. So I pay attention to any signficant inffectious disease out break I hear about.
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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  "If this was the 10th century than Ebola would be the modern day bubonic plague. But its the 21st century. Its not a big problem in places that have 21st century medicine."

  The incedious this about this virus is that it takes out your hospitals first. We see it already starting in Dallas. In the heavily hit areas all all the senior staff at many of the hosplitals have already been taken out. Even if this disease is brought under control tommrow that is a generational problem for many of these areas.
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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  Simon17 do some research. All of that has been verified. Let me simplify this, the virus is EXTREEMLY contategous... we are just apparently fortunate that you arn't particularly contegous till late in the illness.

  The RO (reproductifve rate) is just as high as flu. However it only takes you 3-5 days to pass on your flu to two other people. With Ebola it takes 3-4 weeks to pass it on to two people. Spreads just as easily but just slower. THAT is why it appears as though it isn't a problem. By the end of the year we will know just how serrious it is.
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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  little_Socrates

  Some don't seem to under stand... it isn't that differn't from the flu. What makes the flu special is you are contagous before you are sick and there are asymtomatic cases that are spreaders. If either of these happen you have no hope of contaning it.
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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  little_Socrates

  In west africa the air is warm and moist. Resperiated droplets don't dry out and fall out of the air. In the cool dry air in the hospital... they dry and stay in the air. There is a reason almost all viruses thrive in winter. Coool Dry Air.

  The fortunate thing is that Ebola dosn't particularly favor inffection of the air way If it did way more virus would become airborn. On the other hand I don't think the virus cares how it gets in. Also since nobody in his family appears to be sick... it really does appear you arn't to contageous till late in the illness. Some confort for the comunity but hell for the health care workers.
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  Evidence of life after death?

  by little_Socrates in

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  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largestever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-neardeath-experiences-may-actually-be-real-9780195.html.

  "experts currently believe that the brain shuts down within 20 to 30 seconds of the heart stopping beating and that it is not possible to be aware of anything at all once that has happened.. but scientists in the new study heard said they heard compelling evidence that patients experienced real events for up to three minutes after this had happened and could recall them accurately once they had been resuscitated.".

  how are people having "experinces" while there is no evidence of heart or brain activity?.

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  Want a head trip??

  The Sense of Being Stared At:

  http://www.sheldrake.org/files/pdfs/papers/JCSpaper1.pdf

  Supposedly we can feel if sombody is staring at us. This EVEN works if they are in different rooms looking at us through closed circut tv. Nobody can perfectly sense this but... most of research has found it happens signficantly more often than chance should allow for.

  Dogs that know when their owners are coming home...http://www.sheldrake.org/research/animal-powers/a-dog-that-seems-to-know-when-his-owner-is-coming-home-videotaped-experiments-and-observationsDo Dogs have ESP?