so the other day i was walking through the huge local regional outlet shopping mall.
i see this sign "how do deal with anxiety" didn't take very long at all to confirm it was a jw booth.. that sign bothered me.
do jw actually think they have something to say about anxiety?
dubstepped....
I am probably ADD as well! However you will notice I have a thing for succinctness... I feel if I can't explain myself in a few sentences... I feel I don't really understand the topic! Look at my OP how much I say in just a short bit :)
I think that probably the vast majority of people with ADD have issues with anxiety. Fortunately for me... I don't get too involved in negative self thinking, so I get more physical symptoms than psychological.
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
To answer the question from a Christian perspective.... "Why does God allow suffering"
There must be some inherent value to suffering that we can't see or understand from our current perspective. Proof of this (from the Christian world view) is that God himself through his son choose to suffer. If God chooses to suffer there must be some degree of value to it.
If God during his mortal existence choose to suffer... who are we to think we can avoid suffering?
God is not asking anything of us he didn't already choose for himself.
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
"If there is a creator god, as christian theism asserts, then she designed a world where the quantity and quality of pain and suffering experienced by her creation was not only low in her list of priorities, it wasn't even on the list."
I am sorry I just think that statement is just as absurd as many say theistic arguments are. I guess if we hold different fundamental viewpoints... we will always be like ships passing in the night. I think this is an unwindable argument for both sides. It is fun to stretch our minds for a bit though.
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
Let me see if I understand... the problem isn't that there is suffering. It is that there is too much suffering. Do I understand you?
If so, how do we decide what level of suffering is appropriate and what level isn't?
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
so the other day i was walking through the huge local regional outlet shopping mall.
i see this sign "how do deal with anxiety" didn't take very long at all to confirm it was a jw booth.. that sign bothered me.
do jw actually think they have something to say about anxiety?
So the other day I was walking through the huge local regional outlet shopping mall. I see this sign "how do deal with anxiety" didn't take very long at all to confirm it was a JW booth.
That sign bothered me. Do JW actually think they have something to say about anxiety? Do they think they can help?
or
Are they actively recruiting people with mental health problems? Do they see them as an easier mark?
For most here I know how they answered the question "how do you deal with anxiety". They left the cult!
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
I am sorry you are confusing me...
"I have never asserted that all and any suffering tells us anything about god"
"Suffering proves the god of christian theism does not exist. It is a point worth repeating. Please stop trying to change the subject."
How do you reconcile these two statements? Are you saying suffering disproves "the god of the bible" but dosn't necessarily disprove of some other type of God?
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
Freemindfade I don't know exactly how to answer that without going way off topic. Let me think about how to answer this correctly :)
