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  Something From Nothing: Richard Dawkins & Lawrence Krauss

  by frankiespeakin in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yue0_4rdj0u.

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  Viviane

  It is possible that there always was time, but

  only since the 'beginning', stuff started moving through it.

  Time and space are the same thing, much like energy and matter.
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  One aspect of evolution that does not make sense.....

  by EndofMysteries in

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  the part that does make sense are how bodies adapt over time to surroundings and use.

  for example because of eating habits changing, our jaws have become smaller and we don't need wisdom teeth.

  or the effect of the sun on our skin, etc.

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  Viviane

  EOM, no one is backing out. You're just refusing to put any work in to learn anything, your laziness isn't being indulged anymore.
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  Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

  by prologos in

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  it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

  or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

  what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

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  Viviane

  That is the give away, that the equal points 3 and 96 point to 2 possible resonances. (google orbital resonances if you care to broaden your grasp. )

  Look, I put up a chart showing your pet hypothesis was wrong. You have yet to show proof for your claim that most stars are in a binary system, yet you act as if others are the ones that should do your work.

  Quit being lazy, do the work to show your ideas correct and then we can move on. Otherwise, you are just spinning your wheels. Sadly, when a topic like this comes up and there is an opportunity for real discussion, it's get's mired bad science, poor claims and outright misinformation like this being pushed and all the time has to be spent correcting all the misinformation due poor science education.

  So, you still have all the work ahead of you to show two of your most basic claims. You are still at square one.
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  Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

  by prologos in

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  it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

  or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

  what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

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  Viviane

  orbital spacings double as you go out.

  We've already shown they don't, why do you continue to repeat ignorance assertions not based on observational reality?

  These are the empirical data, not assertions.

  Show the data from NASA, then. Until then, it IS just assertions, just like your statement that most stars exist in binary systems (for which, BTW, you have yet to show your data).

  These two orbits were shosen as reference points because they MATTER, if you start feeding the equation with oddball excentrics off-base like Mercury or Mars

  figures, you are going to be way off by the time you reach the ort cloud.

  Interesting that you claim something proved by empirical data and then try to explain why it is wrong. You don't get it both ways. Either the Tituis-Bode hypothesis matches observational data or it doesn't. You cannot claim it right and matching observation except when it doesn't.
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  Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

  by prologos in

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  it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

  or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

  what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

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  Viviane

  prologos, that last post made no sense. Please show your citations and address the errors in your assertions.

  Once we see the citations and clearly understand where your errors are, then we can move on to resonances and such.

  Thanks!
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  Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

  by prologos in

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  2. beliefs

  it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

  or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

  what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

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  Viviane

  Why do you contiue to hope for an alternative?
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  Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

  by prologos in

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  it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

  or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

  what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

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  Viviane

  Viviane bode look-again: why does your deviation percentage for Pluto not follow the 5%max pattern? Pluto is TWICE farther OUT from Uranus as Saturn is IN ? 9.6 AU vs 19.2 as the doubling rule predicts?

  Now you're just being silly. Simply, Tituis-Bodes law doesn't work, despite what you say. You said orbital bodies follow Bodes Law (which is actually a hypothesis not matching observation) except for a few bodies, and even then outside standard deviance. You started out showing that the "law" you thought was important didn't describe reality and have simply dug in deeper, making claims that are not proven by observation. The math and observation does not follow the Titius-Bode hypothesis as you claimed.

  Keep digging, but try to show some evidence in the shovel-fulls you keep slinging. So far you say a lot but cite nothing. You aren't winning any hearts or minds by continuing down the path you are on.

  as I pointed out, the spacings do NOT DOUBLE below Earth ( .3 AU) and above Uranus, (9.6) . These two repeated values that are in a 2^4 ratio, have some researchers led to believe that the whole system can be modelled in wavelength. (doubling of distance = halving of frequency).

  That's NOT what you said earlier. And just because you use numbers doesn't not mean you are using math. Can you show your work? You also need to show a citation showing most stars are in a binary formation.
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  Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

  or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

  what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

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  Viviane

  To arrive at the "zero sum", 'ultimate free lunch" universe, a balance is suggested between Energy and matter/gravity. or similar opposites, like matter/antimatter in the process near the 'Big Bang' event.

  A zero-sum universe means there IS no free lunch. It means everything balances in the end. That's what zero-sum means.

  having two equal weight or value on both sides of the equation or pivot point, does not mean that the TOTAL value present is zero, no, rather the TOTAL is twice the weight or value on each side.

  You still misunderstand zero-sum. It doesn't mean "there is nothing", it means "all things balance in the end".
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  Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

  or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

  what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

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  Viviane

  I just suggested a Adromeda-enriched environment might be their ticket to final success. That's how desperate their case is. take sarcasm seriously please.

  Since you didn't reference the WT or their desperate case, I suggest you take a class on creative writing to learn how to convery sarcasm. There must be some context for it to make sense, which you did not provide. Also, if you have a history of saying wrong things (shown on this thread), you can't expect people to know when you are just being horribly wrong vs. sarcastic against something you haven't mentioned.
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  Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

  or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

  what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

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  Viviane

  vivian, to be exact, the closest star, 4+ light years away, is part of a BINARY star system , as most stars , Alpha CentaurI (plural) proxima.

  do your research before engaging your tongue. it will do wonders for your credibility.

  You made the claim, it's on you to prove it. And, actually, the closest star to us is Sol, and it's NOT part of binary system. You have all the work to do to prove your statement and back up your logic.

  Backing up your claims (which you have to do when you make them, it's not up to someone else to do your work for you) would do wonders for either your credibility or your education.