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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

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  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  Band, you are making a lot of accusations and providing no evidence, you are overreacting, using hyperbole acting as if you have been persecuted. You are acting hysterical. I work in a professional white collar environment and engage with legal counsels from various corporations on a weekly basis and I have to say, I have trouble imagining any of them acting the way you are.
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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
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  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  Oh, and I love how you, Cofty, trot out the patriarchal 'hysterical woman' BS when BOTR tried to call you on your behaviour. Really? You get so angry sometimes, I imagine your head is about to explode. Temper tantrums, the whole works.

  Untrue. He did not trot out any "hysterical woman" BS. BOTR has yet to show any behavior that even come close to what she is claiming.

  Anyhow, all you know-it-alls who want to be RIGHT, regardless of the damage left in your wake, you carry on, keep on making more staunch believers. lol

  Better to speak to the evidence and use logice than to restort to hysterics, nonsense and untruth all in an effort to smear someone.

  
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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
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  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  Let me assure that my character is fine. Cofty is no gentleman. This battles just goes on and on. It is tiring and boring. Rather than convert people, you push readers away. It reminds me of Sartre's No Exit. Yes, a believer knows French existentialism. Cofty became a bully somewhere.

  And so far you have produced nothing but insults with no proof of the slings and arrows you have suffered (and no one else can find or remember them either).

  Why can't there be a truce? Every argument has already been made. No one has the right to demean me. We are demeaned frequently. A true scientist would not be so rude.

  There is no battle, right now it's just you saying how Cofty is being terrible and not providing proof. You are the only one demeaning you with your own actions. A rational person would not be so rude to themselves.
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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
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  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  So calling God a moral monster is less tactful that being told you'll be tortured for all eternity, as was done on that very thread on the third post?

  "The most important decision you'll ever make (and everyone must make the same decision) is whether or not to believe the Gospel (Good News) of the Lord Jesus Christ. It's the only way to escape the torments and fires of Hell for all eternity."

  So calling God a monster is worse than being told you'll be tortured forever? It sounds like the issue now is atheists are being nicer than some Christians.
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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
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  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  Temper tantrum time. No one is allowed to think unless Cofty approves it. You prove that atheists can have screws loose.

  It is maniacal. Yes, I am a lawyer. No, I will not be a quiet fool.

  You are being a loud fool. You can't or won't provide an example of what you are talking about and are using ridiculous hyperbole. I have trouble believing someone that can't seem to put together a coherent argument is a well respected lawyer as you claim.

  As you wrote, this is not normal behavior.
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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
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  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  My problem is with the tone, not the content, of atheist posts, as well as the threadjacking that DJS and I were referring to. In other words, it boils down to respect.

  Unless insults are being thrown, the tone comes from the reader. I notice, though, that you only have as problem with atheists posts, not any other kind.

  It still seems like the issue is when Christianity is treated as not-special.
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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
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  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  Their complaint is simply that they do not like the ideas they are hearing from that minority and they wish they would stop promoting them. Didn't all of us feel that way about the Westboro jerks, even though there's only like 20 of them? It's hard to ignore even a few people when they are in your face.

  So the complaint is still that some atheists are acting like some Christians.

  No one has a right to not hear things the don't like lin public. If there has been a specific incident of someone being told they are scum, they need to show that. Not liking tone or the message.

  
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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
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  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  Let's do it.
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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
  2. current

  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  That may be, Apog, but she is making very personal, specific claims. I would prefer to NOT speculate that is what she meant. If it is, then, well, she's guilty of the same thing she is complaining about.
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  An important difference between atheists and true believers

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
  2. current

  true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

  atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

  http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).

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  Viviane

  Yes, a believer, the scum of the earth according to certain atheists. I have never done any horrific act. These generalizations are patently untrue.

  According to who? When? What was said? You claim to want justice and at the same time throw out wild accusations. Let's see the proof where you were called scum of the earth. You say you strive to be honorable yet are resorting to wild hyperbole and and a few definite falshoods.

  Hardly honorable, dear.